680 Performance in Crysis 3
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This is officially the first title that is able to cripple my 680 and bring it to its knees. It's rather disappointing. I've got the EVGA Signature+ SC running with a modest 1215/6610 overclock.. coupled with an i7 3770k @ 4.5 Ghz. One of four games that actually supports TXAA and i cant even run it at full capacity. I can manage to tweak the game to get it to look pretty and run at ~30fps though frequently dipping into the 20's. This is the card that was recommended for the 'high' preset so i suppose an SLI setup or 690 is required to play the game like it was meant to be played (no need to mention the titan, as its garbage unless you've got two of them).. It's a little heartbreaking. Let's hope that the drivers will mature and pump some more life out of NVidia's once flagship gk104. [i]EDIT: Sorry for the post in the wrong section :S[/i]
This is officially the first title that is able to cripple my 680 and bring it to its knees. It's rather disappointing. I've got the EVGA Signature+ SC running with a modest 1215/6610 overclock.. coupled with an i7 3770k @ 4.5 Ghz.

One of four games that actually supports TXAA and i cant even run it at full capacity. I can manage to tweak the game to get it to look pretty and run at ~30fps though frequently dipping into the 20's. This is the card that was recommended for the 'high' preset so i suppose an SLI setup or 690 is required to play the game like it was meant to be played (no need to mention the titan, as its garbage unless you've got two of them)..

It's a little heartbreaking. Let's hope that the drivers will mature and pump some more life out of NVidia's once flagship gk104.

EDIT: Sorry for the post in the wrong section :S

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#1
Posted 02/22/2013 09:39 PM   
I'm running two GTX 660 TIs at default CPU and I gotta say - As long as I'm playing the game and not tracking frame rates, I can't [i][b]feel[/b][/i] any lag at 1920*1080, even running Very High at 4xMSAA. The game appears to have had some emphasis given to low frame rates and smooth play as was the first version. My games are on the VelociRaptor RAID0, and their throughput isn't far off from the single Cherryvilles running SATA 3, so that may have a little to do with it as well. If it didn't take up almost 18 GB I could've installed in on the RAMDisk (there's still a copy of Crysis on it), and I may expand the RAMDisk out to 24 GB just to give it a try. Granted I haven't gotten too far into it yet, but so far it seems to me that if you focus on honing your throughput, from RAM to disks, to go along with that CPU and 680 then Crysis 3 shouldn't be that hard to keep as smooth as the first one was. Save the frame rates for benches and focus on the game play, 'cause once those numbers are stuck in your head they become like a dripping faucet at night. You've already slept through several nights while the leak was building to its present point, but it's keeping you awake now that you [i][b]lnow[/b][/i] it's there...
I'm running two GTX 660 TIs at default CPU and I gotta say -

As long as I'm playing the game and not tracking frame rates, I can't feel any lag at 1920*1080, even running Very High at 4xMSAA. The game appears to have had some emphasis given to low frame rates and smooth play as was the first version.

My games are on the VelociRaptor RAID0, and their throughput isn't far off from the single Cherryvilles running SATA 3, so that may have a little to do with it as well. If it didn't take up almost 18 GB I could've installed in on the RAMDisk (there's still a copy of Crysis on it), and I may expand the RAMDisk out to 24 GB just to give it a try.

Granted I haven't gotten too far into it yet, but so far it seems to me that if you focus on honing your throughput, from RAM to disks, to go along with that CPU and 680 then Crysis 3 shouldn't be that hard to keep as smooth as the first one was. Save the frame rates for benches and focus on the game play, 'cause once those numbers are stuck in your head they become like a dripping faucet at night.

You've already slept through several nights while the leak was building to its present point, but it's keeping you awake now that you lnow it's there...

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#2
Posted 02/22/2013 10:01 PM   
its gotta be a driver issue or the game needs an update. seriously.... cant be that 680 is that bad for the game.
its gotta be a driver issue or the game needs an update.
seriously.... cant be that 680 is that bad for the game.

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#3
Posted 02/23/2013 06:30 AM   
I suppose when jaafaman runs at 30hz or 20hz it makes no difference to him but when you are running stable 60hz and drop to 20hz you sure as hell notice the drop. The 680 is not the problem, the problem is that its running at 30% gpu usage in some areas and the effect is very noticeable. When the 680 is running at full utilization there is no problem keeping a steady 60fps. This happens with both sli enabled and disabled. The sli profile sucks badly too and it scales terribly.
I suppose when jaafaman runs at 30hz or 20hz it makes no difference to him but when you are running stable 60hz and drop to 20hz you sure as hell notice the drop.
The 680 is not the problem, the problem is that its running at 30% gpu usage in some areas and the effect is very noticeable.
When the 680 is running at full utilization there is no problem keeping a steady 60fps.
This happens with both sli enabled and disabled.
The sli profile sucks badly too and it scales terribly.

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#4
Posted 02/23/2013 07:00 AM   
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Posted 02/23/2013 11:51 AM   
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#6
Posted 02/23/2013 11:59 AM   
Thank you for that wealth of knowledge udittambe.
Thank you for that wealth of knowledge udittambe.

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#7
Posted 02/23/2013 05:47 PM   
[quote="Saybol"]Thank you for that wealth of knowledge udittambe.[/quote] People like that lie about frames anyway. He will be having all the issues we are having with crysis 3. Hell if my GTX 690 can't run it smoothly. That little plastic thing with stickers he is holding can't.
Saybol said:Thank you for that wealth of knowledge udittambe.


People like that lie about frames anyway. He will be having all the issues we are having with crysis 3. Hell if my GTX 690 can't run it smoothly. That little plastic thing with stickers he is holding can't.

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#8
Posted 02/23/2013 08:01 PM   
[quote="dominikz"]I suppose when jaafaman runs at 30hz or 20hz it makes no difference to him but when you are running stable 60hz and drop to 20hz you sure as hell notice the drop...[/quote] So you assume in order to be contrite and insulting, as you have no evidence either way...
dominikz said:I suppose when jaafaman runs at 30hz or 20hz it makes no difference to him but when you are running stable 60hz and drop to 20hz you sure as hell notice the drop...

So you assume in order to be contrite and insulting, as you have no evidence either way...

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#9
Posted 02/23/2013 09:26 PM   
So the 'guru3d' folks tossed a monster rig at Crysis3 and ran some benchmarks: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/crysis_3_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,7.html GTX680 47FPS @ 1920x1200/VHQ It looks like the prerelease hype was true - C3 can eat GPU's.
So the 'guru3d' folks tossed a monster rig at Crysis3 and ran some benchmarks:


http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/crysis_3_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,7.html


GTX680 47FPS @ 1920x1200/VHQ

It looks like the prerelease hype was true - C3 can eat GPU's.

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#10
Posted 02/23/2013 10:25 PM   
[quote="mbloof"]So the 'guru3d' folks tossed a monster rig at Crysis3 and ran some benchmarks: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/crysis_3_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,7.html GTX680 47FPS @ 1920x1200/VHQ [b][i]It looks like the prerelease hype was true - C3 can eat GPU's.[/i][/b][/quote] "...[i]Please do bear in mind that our tests are based on averages, so YES there will be times your FPS drops to 25 fps in big fire fights and explosions, even with say a GTX 680[/i]..." Conclusion page My two GTX 660 TIs keep the "prefer max performance" setting with VSync forced and the frame rate limiter set for 58. I also run 4xMSAA rather than the two newer ones for this game - dunno if it's the maturity of the algorithms or what, but it runs the smoothest of the three even though it takes more VRAM. This res isn't maxing my VRAM yet, so everything's still not caught up in swapping out frame buffers for lack of memory. And with everyone running so many monitoring apps, all fighting for competing polling intervals and constantly interrupting things to read the same sensors over and over again, so much focus on frame rates and GPU utilization that no one seems to recall the fact that it takes something actually using the GPU to drive its utilization percentages. Eveyone's frame rates dropping at the same points, with everyone's numbers bottoming out, all on differing cards from differing sources means you should be focusing on the [b]CPU[/b]'s numbers instead, trying to find out why [b][i]it[/i][/b]'s so tied up it can't generate draw calls for the GPU to execute. It's so much easier to blame driver support instead. Here's the original Crysis all over again, not a new skin on Resident Evil's 600 fps...
mbloof said:So the 'guru3d' folks tossed a monster rig at Crysis3 and ran some benchmarks:


http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/crysis_3_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,7.html


GTX680 47FPS @ 1920x1200/VHQ

It looks like the prerelease hype was true - C3 can eat GPU's.

"...Please do bear in mind that our tests are based on averages, so YES there will be times your FPS drops to 25 fps in big fire fights and explosions, even with say a GTX 680..."
Conclusion page

My two GTX 660 TIs keep the "prefer max performance" setting with VSync forced and the frame rate limiter set for 58. I also run 4xMSAA rather than the two newer ones for this game - dunno if it's the maturity of the algorithms or what, but it runs the smoothest of the three even though it takes more VRAM. This res isn't maxing my VRAM yet, so everything's still not caught up in swapping out frame buffers for lack of memory.

And with everyone running so many monitoring apps, all fighting for competing polling intervals and constantly interrupting things to read the same sensors over and over again, so much focus on frame rates and GPU utilization that no one seems to recall the fact that it takes something actually using the GPU to drive its utilization percentages.

Eveyone's frame rates dropping at the same points, with everyone's numbers bottoming out, all on differing cards from differing sources means you should be focusing on the CPU's numbers instead, trying to find out why it's so tied up it can't generate draw calls for the GPU to execute.

It's so much easier to blame driver support instead. Here's the original Crysis all over again, not a new skin on Resident Evil's 600 fps...

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#11
Posted 02/23/2013 10:58 PM   
I totally agree with OP. My Rig is; Zotac gtx 680 AMP! I7 3820 @ 4.5ghz 8gigs of 2400mhz Ram An x79 Msi Mainboard Lg 325500LW 3d LCD Tv The game at max settings run at 20 -30 fps for me. And + A terrible input lag is what i'm experiencing at 1920x1200 - At very high settings. Solid 60 fps on LOW settings. At the Crysis 3 handbook, wer seeing that gtx 680 can run it maxed out. But i can only max out with lowest settings. I'm not going to buy another gtx 680 for running only 1 game as well. Awaiting Nvidia's news. Purely Disappointed!
I totally agree with OP. My Rig is;

Zotac gtx 680 AMP!
I7 3820 @ 4.5ghz
8gigs of 2400mhz Ram
An x79 Msi Mainboard
Lg 325500LW 3d LCD Tv

The game at max settings run at 20 -30 fps for me. And + A terrible input lag is what i'm experiencing at 1920x1200 - At very high settings.

Solid 60 fps on LOW settings.

At the Crysis 3 handbook, wer seeing that gtx 680 can run it maxed out. But i can only max out with lowest settings.

I'm not going to buy another gtx 680 for running only 1 game as well.

Awaiting Nvidia's news.

Purely Disappointed!

#12
Posted 02/24/2013 12:13 AM   
You didn't even read the linked article, did you?...
You didn't even read the linked article, did you?...

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#13
Posted 02/24/2013 01:55 AM   
Question. Will OC the 680 produce higher performance or FPS?
Question.
Will OC the 680 produce higher performance or FPS?

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#14
Posted 02/24/2013 06:46 AM   
It probably won't help a lot on the rough spots...
It probably won't help a lot on the rough spots...

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Posted 02/24/2013 07:39 AM   
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