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I just bought and now waiting to get the Corsair Force Series 3 Solid State Drive - 120GB, SATA III (6Gb/s)

Just wondering how this would be for gaming. and how does this ssd rate etc

thanks
I just bought and now waiting to get the Corsair Force Series 3 Solid State Drive - 120GB, SATA III (6Gb/s)



Just wondering how this would be for gaming. and how does this ssd rate etc



thanks

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1

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EVGA GeForce GTX 560 sc

Corsair force 3 120gb

Seagate Barracuda 1tb

Ultra LSP750 750-Watt

Coolermaster Haf 922

#1
Posted 05/01/2012 12:18 AM   
That's a quality drive for sure. Uses the SandForce 2281 controller, which is the same controller used in OCZ's legendary Vertex 3. You should see around 500-550 MB/s reads and 350-400 MB/s writes, which is darn fast.

The Vertex 3 is slightly faster overall thanks to it's custom firmware, but in real-world usage it would be tough to notice a difference.

You chose well. Corsair's Force 3 drives are a terrific bang for your buck presently. Games should load up wicked fast.
That's a quality drive for sure. Uses the SandForce 2281 controller, which is the same controller used in OCZ's legendary Vertex 3. You should see around 500-550 MB/s reads and 350-400 MB/s writes, which is darn fast.



The Vertex 3 is slightly faster overall thanks to it's custom firmware, but in real-world usage it would be tough to notice a difference.



You chose well. Corsair's Force 3 drives are a terrific bang for your buck presently. Games should load up wicked fast.

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#2
Posted 05/01/2012 03:11 AM   
Slam, the performance will be even lesser. Force 3 has Asynchronous MLC chips.
Slam, the performance will be even lesser. Force 3 has Asynchronous MLC chips.

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#3
Posted 05/01/2012 07:12 AM   
[quote name='Ultimate PC Man' date='01 May 2012 - 07:12 AM' timestamp='1335856344' post='1402908']
Slam, the performance will be even lesser. Force 3 has Asynchronous MLC chips.
[/quote]

Read the reviews. The Force 3 scores very well. It's not very much slower than the Vertex 3. Considering the price, it's a better deal for most people.

The Force 3 isn't meant to compete with the Vertex 3 though. It competes with OCZ's Agility line, which also uses Asynchronous NAND.

I like Samsung's 830 series myself. Samsung uses toggle NAND in their 830 series, which is even better than the synchronous NAND used in drives like the Vertex 3 or Force GT.
[quote name='Ultimate PC Man' date='01 May 2012 - 07:12 AM' timestamp='1335856344' post='1402908']

Slam, the performance will be even lesser. Force 3 has Asynchronous MLC chips.





Read the reviews. The Force 3 scores very well. It's not very much slower than the Vertex 3. Considering the price, it's a better deal for most people.



The Force 3 isn't meant to compete with the Vertex 3 though. It competes with OCZ's Agility line, which also uses Asynchronous NAND.



I like Samsung's 830 series myself. Samsung uses toggle NAND in their 830 series, which is even better than the synchronous NAND used in drives like the Vertex 3 or Force GT.

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#4
Posted 05/01/2012 10:19 AM   
[quote name='slamscaper' date='01 May 2012 - 03:49 PM' timestamp='1335867565' post='1402962']
Read the reviews. The Force 3 scores very well. It's not very much slower than the Vertex 3. Considering the price, it's a better deal for most people.

The Force 3 isn't meant to compete with the Vertex 3 though. It competes with OCZ's Agility line, which also uses Asynchronous NAND.

I like Samsung's 830 series myself. Samsung uses toggle NAND in their 830 series, which is even better than the synchronous NAND used in drives like the Vertex 3 or Force GT.
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[url="http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/08/07/nand_flash_faces_off_synchronous_vs_asynchronous/1"]http://www.hardocp.c..._asynchronous/1[/url]

Check for yourself. Both the Force GT and Force 3 have been used here :)

It depends on what you are doing really.

BTW, Toggle NAND is a type of Synchronous NAND chip. It is the Toshiba standard. What the 'normal' Synchronous chips use is the ONFI standard. Vertex 3 comes in both flavours.
[quote name='slamscaper' date='01 May 2012 - 03:49 PM' timestamp='1335867565' post='1402962']

Read the reviews. The Force 3 scores very well. It's not very much slower than the Vertex 3. Considering the price, it's a better deal for most people.



The Force 3 isn't meant to compete with the Vertex 3 though. It competes with OCZ's Agility line, which also uses Asynchronous NAND.



I like Samsung's 830 series myself. Samsung uses toggle NAND in their 830 series, which is even better than the synchronous NAND used in drives like the Vertex 3 or Force GT.





http://www.hardocp.c..._asynchronous/1



Check for yourself. Both the Force GT and Force 3 have been used here :)



It depends on what you are doing really.



BTW, Toggle NAND is a type of Synchronous NAND chip. It is the Toshiba standard. What the 'normal' Synchronous chips use is the ONFI standard. Vertex 3 comes in both flavours.

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#5
Posted 05/01/2012 11:29 AM   
Double post.
Double post.

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#6
Posted 05/01/2012 11:33 AM   
[quote name='Ultimate PC Man' date='01 May 2012 - 12:29 PM' timestamp='1335871755' post='1402974']
[url="http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/08/07/nand_flash_faces_off_synchronous_vs_asynchronous/1"]http://www.hardocp.c..._asynchronous/1[/url]

Check for yourself. Both the Force GT and Force 3 have been used here :)
[/quote]

I have. For the most part the Force 3 drives perform more than admirably. They don't match the Vertex 3 overall of course, but when your choice is between stupid fast and ridiculous fast there's no wrong choice really.

[quote name='Ultimate PC Man' date='01 May 2012 - 12:29 PM' timestamp='1335871755' post='1402974']
BTW, Toggle NAND is a type of Synchronous NAND chip. It is the Toshiba standard. What the 'normal' Synchronous chips use is the ONFI standard. Vertex 3 comes in both flavours.
[/quote]

Samsung uses their own toggle NAND in their drives. I really think that their drives are the best overall performers. I'd choose the 830 series over the Vertex 4 right now.
[quote name='Ultimate PC Man' date='01 May 2012 - 12:29 PM' timestamp='1335871755' post='1402974']

http://www.hardocp.c..._asynchronous/1



Check for yourself. Both the Force GT and Force 3 have been used here :)





I have. For the most part the Force 3 drives perform more than admirably. They don't match the Vertex 3 overall of course, but when your choice is between stupid fast and ridiculous fast there's no wrong choice really.



[quote name='Ultimate PC Man' date='01 May 2012 - 12:29 PM' timestamp='1335871755' post='1402974']

BTW, Toggle NAND is a type of Synchronous NAND chip. It is the Toshiba standard. What the 'normal' Synchronous chips use is the ONFI standard. Vertex 3 comes in both flavours.





Samsung uses their own toggle NAND in their drives. I really think that their drives are the best overall performers. I'd choose the 830 series over the Vertex 4 right now.

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#7
Posted 05/01/2012 12:38 PM   
[quote name='slamscaper' date='01 May 2012 - 06:08 PM' timestamp='1335875897' post='1402994']
I have. For the most part the Force 3 drives perform more than admirably. They don't match the Vertex 3 overall of course, but when your choice is between stupid fast and ridiculous fast there's no wrong choice really.



Samsung uses their own toggle NAND in their drives. I really think that their drives are the best overall performers. I'd choose the 830 series over the Vertex 4 right now.
[/quote]

I did not mean it that way. I was just saying that the performance difference is not unnoticable. I've seen Vertex 3 go for [url="http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-Vertex-2-5-Inch-Performance-VTX3-25SAT3-120G/dp/B004Q81CKY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1335877597&sr=8-1"]as cheap as $140 for the 120GB version.
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Samsung uses their own toggle NAND, but the standard is Toshiba's. It is a bit like the primary instruction set of both AMD and Intel's current CPUs- x86_64. Samsung makes its own flash memory, so they are using Toshiba's design and building their own chips :)
[quote name='slamscaper' date='01 May 2012 - 06:08 PM' timestamp='1335875897' post='1402994']

I have. For the most part the Force 3 drives perform more than admirably. They don't match the Vertex 3 overall of course, but when your choice is between stupid fast and ridiculous fast there's no wrong choice really.







Samsung uses their own toggle NAND in their drives. I really think that their drives are the best overall performers. I'd choose the 830 series over the Vertex 4 right now.





I did not mean it that way. I was just saying that the performance difference is not unnoticable. I've seen Vertex 3 go for as cheap as $140 for the 120GB version.



Samsung uses their own toggle NAND, but the standard is Toshiba's. It is a bit like the primary instruction set of both AMD and Intel's current CPUs- x86_64. Samsung makes its own flash memory, so they are using Toshiba's design and building their own chips :)

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#8
Posted 05/01/2012 01:07 PM   
I have one for my game drive and it's been working great. I think you'll be very happy with it.
I have one for my game drive and it's been working great. I think you'll be very happy with it.

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#9
Posted 05/01/2012 03:31 PM   
[quote name='Tyrdstorm' date='01 May 2012 - 12:31 PM' timestamp='1335886267' post='1403042']
I have one for my game drive and it's been working great. I think you'll be very happy with it.
[/quote]

Great :) i am just gonna use it for putting games on, mostly swtor cause the load times are horrible

is it true that MMOS are really bad for ssd? these kinda drives are new to me so sure what kills them quick or not...:P
[quote name='Tyrdstorm' date='01 May 2012 - 12:31 PM' timestamp='1335886267' post='1403042']

I have one for my game drive and it's been working great. I think you'll be very happy with it.





Great :) i am just gonna use it for putting games on, mostly swtor cause the load times are horrible



is it true that MMOS are really bad for ssd? these kinda drives are new to me so sure what kills them quick or not...:P

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#10
Posted 05/01/2012 06:16 PM   
I agree with Tyrd. Any SSD upgrade over an HDD is enjoyable. See, anything is bad for an SSD if it does too many reads and writes on your drive :)
I agree with Tyrd. Any SSD upgrade over an HDD is enjoyable. See, anything is bad for an SSD if it does too many reads and writes on your drive :)

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#11
Posted 05/01/2012 07:38 PM   
[quote name='Helms' date='01 May 2012 - 02:16 PM' timestamp='1335896212' post='1403103']
Great :) i am just gonna use it for putting games on, mostly swtor cause the load times are horrible

is it true that MMOS are really bad for ssd? these kinda drives are new to me so sure what kills them quick or not...:P
[/quote]
[i]
I recommend AHCI (TRIM capable) for configuration of the SATA mode for the SSD. As far as MMOs being destructive towards Solid Sate Drives, this is mainly due to the continual update processes that occur with the game data relating to the client's files/subsequent files. Traditional HDDs still contain a high level of durability for these types of writes, however TRIM functionality and modern controllers offer much better longevity than previous builds. You may need to manually configure TRIM operation for the drive if Windows 7 does not natively identify the independent drive as compatible for the function; this occurs when the SSD is assigned to a non-primary partition containing the operating system. [/i]

To perform the aforementioned operation follow below:

Enter Windows Command Prompt

Type the following: fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify 0

[i]If the prompt responds with "0" TRIM is currently enabled and functioning. As previously stated AHCI (SATA mode) is required for this operation; failure to perform a fresh format of the operating system will result in loss of function, and/or data corruption. [/i]

-Hooks
[quote name='Helms' date='01 May 2012 - 02:16 PM' timestamp='1335896212' post='1403103']

Great :) i am just gonna use it for putting games on, mostly swtor cause the load times are horrible



is it true that MMOS are really bad for ssd? these kinda drives are new to me so sure what kills them quick or not...:P





I recommend AHCI (TRIM capable) for configuration of the SATA mode for the SSD. As far as MMOs being destructive towards Solid Sate Drives, this is mainly due to the continual update processes that occur with the game data relating to the client's files/subsequent files. Traditional HDDs still contain a high level of durability for these types of writes, however TRIM functionality and modern controllers offer much better longevity than previous builds. You may need to manually configure TRIM operation for the drive if Windows 7 does not natively identify the independent drive as compatible for the function; this occurs when the SSD is assigned to a non-primary partition containing the operating system.




To perform the aforementioned operation follow below:



Enter Windows Command Prompt



Type the following: fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify 0



If the prompt responds with "0" TRIM is currently enabled and functioning. As previously stated AHCI (SATA mode) is required for this operation; failure to perform a fresh format of the operating system will result in loss of function, and/or data corruption.



-Hooks

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#12
Posted 05/02/2012 11:34 AM   
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