A good lasting gaming and multipurpose rig? Correct forum?
This seem like a decent rig to play most current and forthcoming PC games? I have gotten plenty of suggestions for parts in previous threads . .

Purpose of System: Gaming, browsing internet, watching videos. But mostly for gaming. I also do want to use Folding@home as well.
Budget: Within about 1500 American dollars
Country: USA
Reuseable parts: Can't, see below (current specs) as to why
Overclocking: Doubtful. Though if I can get enough airflow I may try
Monitor: Currently 1680 x 1050 (22 Inches) - I eventually want HD (Between 23 - 27 inches)
Features of Motherboard: Firewire, USB 3.0, SATA 6 Gb/s, eSATA, UEFI
OS: Windows 7 64 bit (I have the discs for 32 & 64 bit)

Part list permalink: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7oR2
Part price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7oR2/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7oR2/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.90 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive: OCZ Agility 3 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($468.49 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Silverstone 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($107.10 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH22NS90B DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
------------------------------------- [i]these I will buy later[/i]-------------------------------------------------
Monitor: Samsung P2770FH 27.0" Monitor ($293.00 @ B&H)
Monitor: Samsung P2770FH 27.0" Monitor ($293.00 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64-bit) ($188.88 @ Mac Mall)
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $2362.28
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated 2012-04-27 20:04 EDT-0400)

Current specs:

Case: No idea (although it is a HP slimline, gray) - that should give some idea of the sort of case.
Motherboard: Asus A8N-BR (Pyrite) (1 PCI, 2 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, Video, LAN, IEEE-1394)
Motherboard Chipset - nVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE, AMD Hammer
Power Supply: No idea (but it's less than 100 watts, I think)
Processor: DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3800+
CPU Cooler: A fan
Memory:
- DIMM1: Kingston 1 GB DDR2-533 DDR2 SDRAM (5-4-4-12 (at) 266 MHz) (4-4-4-12 (at) 266 MHz) (3-3-3-9 (at) 200 MHz)
- DIMM2: Kingston 2G-UDIMM 2 GB DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-15 (at) 333 MHz) (4-4-4-12 (at) 266 MHz) (3-3-3-9 (at) 200 MHz)
Hard Drive: 250 GB ATA drive
Optical Drive HL-DT-ST DVDRRW GSA-H20L ATA Device (DVD+R9:8x, DVD-R9:4x, DVD+RW:16x/8x, DVD-RW:16x/6x, DVD-RAM:5x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:48x/32x/48x DVD+RW/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM)
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit

And what I wanted in a new system:

Hardware

USB 2.0 speeds that are minimum of 30 MB a second
USB 3.0 speeds that are at lest 300+ MB/s [I will get / use an SSD]
Firewire (and or eSata port) --- because I have a external hardrive that has both along with USB
At lest a solid terabyte (1.5 TB)
Has either a VGA or DVI port (current monitor I have has both)
Also has support for HDMI (for the future monitor)
Multi card reader (although I mainly need SD and Memory Pro Stick Duo)
Able to use a PS3 controller AND A XBOX 360 controller (yes I know 360 is native support . . .)
I would like a quad core.
Multiple internal DVD drives - Also to make installations faster
Plenty of 3.5/5.25 drive bays . . .

Software

Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit) (Main OS) -- Mostly for languages
Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit (if needed)
May first run Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit - as I have both 32/64 bit discs now)
Windows XP (if 64 bit won't run some of the games I have) (if needed)
Folding@home - (although I use my PS3 for that when I'm not using it

Gaming Software:

- Will use steam:

Elder Scrolls (Morrowind -> Skyrim)
Portal 1 & 2
Batman Arkham (Asylum/City)
Sonic Generations
Quake (all)
Doom (all)
Wolfenstein (3D) & 2009 - and the others
Commander keen (all)
Bioshock (1/2) (perhaps infinite)
L.A. Noire
Bejeweled 2/3
Peggle
Various COD's
anything else that interests me

- Will use CD/DVD's of the games I have:
Warcraft 2 - Tides of Darkness & Beyond the Dark Portal
Warcraft 3 - Reign of Chaos & Frozen Throne
Diablo 1 - 3 (when it comes out)
The Sims 1 - And all expansions
The Sims 2 (probably)
Simcity 4000 & Rushhour
May use emulation (to run up to the PS2/Wii)

Other Thoughts

Eventually a dual monitor setup (and one be HD resolution)
I will wait for some parts (hard drives, GPU, etc) to drop in price.
Will wait for IvyBridge. . . . (as if I have a choice)
I WANT UEFI, NOT regular old BIOS (that this slimline has)
May eventually like a dual GPU (crossfire?)
Yes I know 32 GB of RAM is 'overkill' but c'est la vie

Power Supply Thoughts:

ABSOLUTE MAX Watts: 900w
Efficiency: AT LEST 80+ Silver
Modular - semi or fully

MISC. Part Thoughts:

Case: Plenty of space (/airflow). I'd like some other color besides black (i'm just tired of every time we buy being black or white)

Monitor Thoughts:

Screen: Full HD & Widescreen
Supports: HDMI, DVI, Displayport (if the motherboard of the computer does)
Within 1 - 2 MS response time (current monitor is 5 MS response time) [if I'd notice a real difference and price]
Screen size - 25 to about 27 inches
This seem like a decent rig to play most current and forthcoming PC games? I have gotten plenty of suggestions for parts in previous threads . .



Purpose of System: Gaming, browsing internet, watching videos. But mostly for gaming. I also do want to use Folding@home as well.

Budget: Within about 1500 American dollars

Country: USA

Reuseable parts: Can't, see below (current specs) as to why

Overclocking: Doubtful. Though if I can get enough airflow I may try

Monitor: Currently 1680 x 1050 (22 Inches) - I eventually want HD (Between 23 - 27 inches)

Features of Motherboard: Firewire, USB 3.0, SATA 6 Gb/s, eSATA, UEFI

OS: Windows 7 64 bit (I have the discs for 32 & 64 bit)



Part list permalink: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7oR2

Part price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7oR2/by_merchant/

Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7oR2/benchmarks/



CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ Microcenter)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.90 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Amazon)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)

Hard Drive: OCZ Agility 3 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ NCIX US)

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($159.99 @ NCIX US)

Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($468.49 @ Newegg)

Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.98 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Silverstone 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($107.10 @ NCIX US)

Optical Drive: LG GH22NS90B DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)

------------------------------------- these I will buy later-------------------------------------------------

Monitor: Samsung P2770FH 27.0" Monitor ($293.00 @ B&H)

Monitor: Samsung P2770FH 27.0" Monitor ($293.00 @ B&H)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64-bit) ($188.88 @ Mac Mall)

Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($39.99 @ Newegg)



Total: $2362.28

(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

(Generated 2012-04-27 20:04 EDT-0400)



Current specs:



Case: No idea (although it is a HP slimline, gray) - that should give some idea of the sort of case.

Motherboard: Asus A8N-BR (Pyrite) (1 PCI, 2 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, Video, LAN, IEEE-1394)

Motherboard Chipset - nVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE, AMD Hammer

Power Supply: No idea (but it's less than 100 watts, I think)

Processor: DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3800+

CPU Cooler: A fan

Memory:

- DIMM1: Kingston 1 GB DDR2-533 DDR2 SDRAM (5-4-4-12 (at) 266 MHz) (4-4-4-12 (at) 266 MHz) (3-3-3-9 (at) 200 MHz)

- DIMM2: Kingston 2G-UDIMM 2 GB DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-15 (at) 333 MHz) (4-4-4-12 (at) 266 MHz) (3-3-3-9 (at) 200 MHz)

Hard Drive: 250 GB ATA drive

Optical Drive HL-DT-ST DVDRRW GSA-H20L ATA Device (DVD+R9:8x, DVD-R9:4x, DVD+RW:16x/8x, DVD-RW:16x/6x, DVD-RAM:5x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:48x/32x/48x DVD+RW/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM)

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit



And what I wanted in a new system:



Hardware



USB 2.0 speeds that are minimum of 30 MB a second

USB 3.0 speeds that are at lest 300+ MB/s [I will get / use an SSD]

Firewire (and or eSata port) --- because I have a external hardrive that has both along with USB

At lest a solid terabyte (1.5 TB)

Has either a VGA or DVI port (current monitor I have has both)

Also has support for HDMI (for the future monitor)

Multi card reader (although I mainly need SD and Memory Pro Stick Duo)

Able to use a PS3 controller AND A XBOX 360 controller (yes I know 360 is native support . . .)

I would like a quad core.

Multiple internal DVD drives - Also to make installations faster

Plenty of 3.5/5.25 drive bays . . .



Software



Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit) (Main OS) -- Mostly for languages

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit (if needed)

May first run Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit - as I have both 32/64 bit discs now)

Windows XP (if 64 bit won't run some of the games I have) (if needed)

Folding@home - (although I use my PS3 for that when I'm not using it



Gaming Software:



- Will use steam:



Elder Scrolls (Morrowind -> Skyrim)

Portal 1 & 2

Batman Arkham (Asylum/City)

Sonic Generations

Quake (all)

Doom (all)

Wolfenstein (3D) & 2009 - and the others

Commander keen (all)

Bioshock (1/2) (perhaps infinite)

L.A. Noire

Bejeweled 2/3

Peggle

Various COD's

anything else that interests me



- Will use CD/DVD's of the games I have:

Warcraft 2 - Tides of Darkness & Beyond the Dark Portal

Warcraft 3 - Reign of Chaos & Frozen Throne

Diablo 1 - 3 (when it comes out)

The Sims 1 - And all expansions

The Sims 2 (probably)

Simcity 4000 & Rushhour

May use emulation (to run up to the PS2/Wii)



Other Thoughts



Eventually a dual monitor setup (and one be HD resolution)

I will wait for some parts (hard drives, GPU, etc) to drop in price.

Will wait for IvyBridge. . . . (as if I have a choice)

I WANT UEFI, NOT regular old BIOS (that this slimline has)

May eventually like a dual GPU (crossfire?)

Yes I know 32 GB of RAM is 'overkill' but c'est la vie



Power Supply Thoughts:



ABSOLUTE MAX Watts: 900w

Efficiency: AT LEST 80+ Silver

Modular - semi or fully



MISC. Part Thoughts:



Case: Plenty of space (/airflow). I'd like some other color besides black (i'm just tired of every time we buy being black or white)



Monitor Thoughts:



Screen: Full HD & Widescreen

Supports: HDMI, DVI, Displayport (if the motherboard of the computer does)

Within 1 - 2 MS response time (current monitor is 5 MS response time) [if I'd notice a real difference and price]

Screen size - 25 to about 27 inches

#1
Posted 04/28/2012 12:05 AM   
Too many options. Narrow it down to a core system, including psu, and submit that for suggestions.
It may be better to start a new thread for the monitor, case and mouse/keyboard to attract a broader range of interest, and worry about that when the time comes to buy them.

Regarding your title - [i]'a good lasting gaming machine'[/i]. How long is this ?
To keep up on the AAA titles most people will get a new gpu every year, two at the outside, and some upgrade with each new release, or go dual card.
The rest of the components should be good for at least two-three years as the gpu is what it's all about with games.
As far as general lifespan most components are good for five years at least, if they have somehow avoided being superseded.

Win7 64bit runs the vast majority of games. I have over 100 installed, and used compatibility mode with only a handful of them, and then it was only as a precaution (GTA4 because it will not install an XP machine without sp3, is one).
Some of the very old games may need XP, and there can be issues with DRM with a few games from mid- 2000's as they don't recognise 64bit OS (including XP).
They can mostly be sorted out with a noCD fix once installed. TAGES copy protection has a patch for 64bit that helps get rid of a Windows error message with The Witcher, but I'm not sure about others.
Other oldies have 16bit installers that don't work on 64bit OS's, but they sometimes have fan sites with new installers, and others have fixes for colour issues (Diablo 2).

btw - multiple DVD's can make installations faster ?
Too many options. Narrow it down to a core system, including psu, and submit that for suggestions.

It may be better to start a new thread for the monitor, case and mouse/keyboard to attract a broader range of interest, and worry about that when the time comes to buy them.



Regarding your title - 'a good lasting gaming machine'. How long is this ?

To keep up on the AAA titles most people will get a new gpu every year, two at the outside, and some upgrade with each new release, or go dual card.

The rest of the components should be good for at least two-three years as the gpu is what it's all about with games.

As far as general lifespan most components are good for five years at least, if they have somehow avoided being superseded.



Win7 64bit runs the vast majority of games. I have over 100 installed, and used compatibility mode with only a handful of them, and then it was only as a precaution (GTA4 because it will not install an XP machine without sp3, is one).

Some of the very old games may need XP, and there can be issues with DRM with a few games from mid- 2000's as they don't recognise 64bit OS (including XP).

They can mostly be sorted out with a noCD fix once installed. TAGES copy protection has a patch for 64bit that helps get rid of a Windows error message with The Witcher, but I'm not sure about others.

Other oldies have 16bit installers that don't work on 64bit OS's, but they sometimes have fan sites with new installers, and others have fixes for colour issues (Diablo 2).



btw - multiple DVD's can make installations faster ?

BossDweebe is in his second childhood, or would be if he'd ever left the first.

#2
Posted 04/30/2012 08:10 AM   
If you have several optical drives you could stick multiuple CD'S or DVD's in, instead of the installer asking for disc two or in the case of something like Diablo 2 (which has 4 CD's - Installer, Cinematic, play & expansion (D2 LOD)) and having to swap discs out every five or 10 minutes. My old single core Compaq had two CD drives and it really did make installations faster (I thought).
If you have several optical drives you could stick multiuple CD'S or DVD's in, instead of the installer asking for disc two or in the case of something like Diablo 2 (which has 4 CD's - Installer, Cinematic, play & expansion (D2 LOD)) and having to swap discs out every five or 10 minutes. My old single core Compaq had two CD drives and it really did make installations faster (I thought).

#3
Posted 04/30/2012 03:47 PM   
I thought you may say that, but I always though the installer looked for the other disks in the same drive. Not, eh!
I guess I got this idea when a game or three would not play when I put the disk in the drive I did not install from (before I found out about noCD's) /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
I thought you may say that, but I always though the installer looked for the other disks in the same drive. Not, eh!

I guess I got this idea when a game or three would not play when I put the disk in the drive I did not install from (before I found out about noCD's) /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

BossDweebe is in his second childhood, or would be if he'd ever left the first.

#4
Posted 05/01/2012 10:02 AM   
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