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Hi guys I'm pretty new to PC hardware (a noob, to put it frankly). I bought the 680 a few weeks ago and I was wanting to make sure that I'm getting the full performance out of it.

These are my specs:

Intel Core i7 950(3.06GHz)
64 bit Quad-Core Processor
12GB RAM (6x2GB) DDR3 1333
1TB (1 x 1TB) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM HDD
2TB 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
GeForce GTX 680 2GB
750W PSU
120mm Liquid Cooling System

I'm looking into upgrading my processor, should I do this? If so, which processor should I get (keep in mind that I want top of the line and peak performance, money is not really an issue for me, outside of paying rent and bills my PC is the only thing I put money into)

Any suggestions to get peak performance out of my rig and gpu?

I could also use some assistance in overclocking... I have attempted to overclock my 680 and was having trouble:
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=226806
Hi guys I'm pretty new to PC hardware (a noob, to put it frankly). I bought the 680 a few weeks ago and I was wanting to make sure that I'm getting the full performance out of it.



These are my specs:



Intel Core i7 950(3.06GHz)

64 bit Quad-Core Processor

12GB RAM (6x2GB) DDR3 1333

1TB (1 x 1TB) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM HDD

2TB 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

GeForce GTX 680 2GB

750W PSU

120mm Liquid Cooling System



I'm looking into upgrading my processor, should I do this? If so, which processor should I get (keep in mind that I want top of the line and peak performance, money is not really an issue for me, outside of paying rent and bills my PC is the only thing I put money into)



Any suggestions to get peak performance out of my rig and gpu?



I could also use some assistance in overclocking... I have attempted to overclock my 680 and was having trouble:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=226806

#1
Posted 04/21/2012 01:11 AM   
Are you upgrading for the sake of upgrading (and overlclocking) or are you legitimately not able to run a certain game at full throttle? The 680 doesn't need to be overclocked, it uses adaptive technology that should provide a great experience on its own. If you really want to upgrade, obviously I would get one of these motherboards and the best I7 CPU you can afford. Overclocking risks damage, just look at the NUMEROUS posts on these forums from people complaining of erratic behavior, strange lines, and black screens. They have all fried their cards. These cards are not forgiving, one wrong move and it's all over.

http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/pcie3_ready/


http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-680-2GB-Graphics-Card-Review-Kepler-Motion/Adaptive-VSync
Are you upgrading for the sake of upgrading (and overlclocking) or are you legitimately not able to run a certain game at full throttle? The 680 doesn't need to be overclocked, it uses adaptive technology that should provide a great experience on its own. If you really want to upgrade, obviously I would get one of these motherboards and the best I7 CPU you can afford. Overclocking risks damage, just look at the NUMEROUS posts on these forums from people complaining of erratic behavior, strange lines, and black screens. They have all fried their cards. These cards are not forgiving, one wrong move and it's all over.



http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/pcie3_ready/





http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-680-2GB-Graphics-Card-Review-Kepler-Motion/Adaptive-VSync

http://www.hollywoodpcrepair.com/index.html



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#2
Posted 04/21/2012 01:22 AM   
My sole intention is just to get peak performance out of my 680 and rig in general, If I don't need to upgrade, than I wont. But I just don't feel like I am getting peak performance out of my 680. I paid a pretty penny for it and I want to take full advantage of it.

Why do you suggest upgrading my motherboard, what would that change?
My sole intention is just to get peak performance out of my 680 and rig in general, If I don't need to upgrade, than I wont. But I just don't feel like I am getting peak performance out of my 680. I paid a pretty penny for it and I want to take full advantage of it.



Why do you suggest upgrading my motherboard, what would that change?

#3
Posted 04/21/2012 01:30 AM   
One of these PCIE 3.0 motherboards will take care of that. I have had exceptional luck with these motherboards, they are rock solid and a pleasure to work with. One of these boards, an I7 CPU, and your 680 will be an outstanding system ready for years of use. Your current motherboard is not PCIE 3.0, so switching to this will let the 680 run flat out.

http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/pcie3_ready/
One of these PCIE 3.0 motherboards will take care of that. I have had exceptional luck with these motherboards, they are rock solid and a pleasure to work with. One of these boards, an I7 CPU, and your 680 will be an outstanding system ready for years of use. Your current motherboard is not PCIE 3.0, so switching to this will let the 680 run flat out.



http://event.asus.com/2011/mb/pcie3_ready/

http://www.hollywoodpcrepair.com/index.html



https://plus.google.com/113631846936966512572/about?gl=US&hl=en-US



Intel Core i7 X 980 3.33GHz @ 3.3 GHz

eVGA X58 Classified 4-Way SLI motherboard

HAF-X Case, Corsair H80 CPU Liquid Cooler

12GB System RAM

EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480

KingWin Mach 1 ATX 1220-Watt Power Supply

Western Digital VelociRaptor 10000 RPM hdd



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#4
Posted 04/21/2012 01:33 AM   
Thank you for your posts I will look into these motherboards...
Thank you for your posts I will look into these motherboards...

#5
Posted 04/21/2012 01:42 AM   
Check out the new Z77 motherboards and wait another month until the new intel Ivy bridge CPUs hit the market.

You could also add a small SDD for HDD caching. http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/solid-state-drives/ssd-smart-response-video.html
It won't get more out of the 680, just better overall system responsiveness.
Check out the new Z77 motherboards and wait another month until the new intel Ivy bridge CPUs hit the market.



You could also add a small SDD for HDD caching. http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/solid-state-drives/ssd-smart-response-video.html

It won't get more out of the 680, just better overall system responsiveness.

#6
Posted 04/21/2012 02:04 AM   
[quote name='RedFury77' date='20 April 2012 - 09:04 PM' timestamp='1334973844' post='1398974']
Check out the new Z77 motherboards and wait another month until the new intel Ivy bridge CPUs hit the market.

You could also add a small SDD for HDD caching. http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/solid-state-drives/ssd-smart-response-video.html
It won't get more out of the 680, just better overall system responsiveness.
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http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0374294

What do you think about this SSD? I might be able to get a good deal on it. Is it possible to replace my Local Drive C (1TB (1 x 1TB) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM HDD) with this SSD?
[quote name='RedFury77' date='20 April 2012 - 09:04 PM' timestamp='1334973844' post='1398974']

Check out the new Z77 motherboards and wait another month until the new intel Ivy bridge CPUs hit the market.



You could also add a small SDD for HDD caching. http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/solid-state-drives/ssd-smart-response-video.html

It won't get more out of the 680, just better overall system responsiveness.





http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0374294



What do you think about this SSD? I might be able to get a good deal on it. Is it possible to replace my Local Drive C (1TB (1 x 1TB) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM HDD) with this SSD?

#7
Posted 04/21/2012 03:24 AM   
You can get it cheaper on Amazon with free shipping (see link). If you buy that drive, install fresh; Win7 treats SSD's different than rotational drives and configures itself differently during the install.

http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-Technology-RevoDrive-Hybrid-RVDHY-FH-1T/dp/B005J4P0JS
You can get it cheaper on Amazon with free shipping (see link). If you buy that drive, install fresh; Win7 treats SSD's different than rotational drives and configures itself differently during the install.



http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-Technology-RevoDrive-Hybrid-RVDHY-FH-1T/dp/B005J4P0JS

http://www.hollywoodpcrepair.com/index.html



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Intel Core i7 X 980 3.33GHz @ 3.3 GHz

eVGA X58 Classified 4-Way SLI motherboard

HAF-X Case, Corsair H80 CPU Liquid Cooler

12GB System RAM

EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480

KingWin Mach 1 ATX 1220-Watt Power Supply

Western Digital VelociRaptor 10000 RPM hdd



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#8
Posted 04/21/2012 03:29 AM   
[quote name='HollywoodPCRepair' date='20 April 2012 - 10:29 PM' timestamp='1334978987' post='1399003']
You can get it cheaper on Amazon with free shipping (see link). If you buy that drive, install fresh; Win7 treats SSD's different than rotational drives and configures itself differently during the install.

http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-Technology-RevoDrive-Hybrid-RVDHY-FH-1T/dp/B005J4P0JS
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I might be able to get a deal on it even cheaper than that.. But, what do you mean by "install fresh" how would I replace my old local drive with this one? I'll bring my pc to the shop to have it installed, but then what do I do from there? Should I transfer all the files from my local drive to my extended drive ? Is that even possible?
[quote name='HollywoodPCRepair' date='20 April 2012 - 10:29 PM' timestamp='1334978987' post='1399003']

You can get it cheaper on Amazon with free shipping (see link). If you buy that drive, install fresh; Win7 treats SSD's different than rotational drives and configures itself differently during the install.



http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-Technology-RevoDrive-Hybrid-RVDHY-FH-1T/dp/B005J4P0JS





I might be able to get a deal on it even cheaper than that.. But, what do you mean by "install fresh" how would I replace my old local drive with this one? I'll bring my pc to the shop to have it installed, but then what do I do from there? Should I transfer all the files from my local drive to my extended drive ? Is that even possible?

#9
Posted 04/21/2012 03:35 AM   
From what I've read, these drives have a problem with DOA and early failure -- for that reason I would buy it from a reputable source such as Amazon since they will take a return no questions asked.

Since these drives are a hybrid SSD & rotational drive combined, I think they come with software which automatically optimizes it by moving the OS and other often-accessed files to the SSD part, then actively caches things. If this is the case (that it comes with its own software to do this), then a fresh Win7 install may not be necessary. In that case, you could just clone your old drive to this drive and go -- the active software would then optimize things.

Personally, I would do a fresh install of Windows 7 on this drive then use your old drive for storage (music, video, backup, etc.). Just install it as the second hard drive.
From what I've read, these drives have a problem with DOA and early failure -- for that reason I would buy it from a reputable source such as Amazon since they will take a return no questions asked.



Since these drives are a hybrid SSD & rotational drive combined, I think they come with software which automatically optimizes it by moving the OS and other often-accessed files to the SSD part, then actively caches things. If this is the case (that it comes with its own software to do this), then a fresh Win7 install may not be necessary. In that case, you could just clone your old drive to this drive and go -- the active software would then optimize things.



Personally, I would do a fresh install of Windows 7 on this drive then use your old drive for storage (music, video, backup, etc.). Just install it as the second hard drive.

http://www.hollywoodpcrepair.com/index.html



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KingWin Mach 1 ATX 1220-Watt Power Supply

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#10
Posted 04/21/2012 03:40 AM   
[quote name='HollywoodPCRepair' date='20 April 2012 - 10:40 PM' timestamp='1334979636' post='1399009']
From what I've read, these drives have a problem with DOA and early failure -- for that reason I would buy it from a reputable source such as Amazon since they will take a return no questions asked.

Since these drives are a hybrid SSD & rotational drive combined, I think they come with software which automatically optimizes it by moving the OS and other often-accessed files to the SSD part, then actively caches things. If this is the case (that it comes with its own software to do this), then a fresh Win7 install may not be necessary. In that case, you could just clone your old drive to this drive and go -- the active software would then optimize things.

Personally, I would do a fresh install of Windows 7 on this drive then use your old drive for storage (music, video, backup, etc.). Just install it as the second hard drive.
[/quote]

I'm going to have it installed at a computer shop
[quote name='HollywoodPCRepair' date='20 April 2012 - 10:40 PM' timestamp='1334979636' post='1399009']

From what I've read, these drives have a problem with DOA and early failure -- for that reason I would buy it from a reputable source such as Amazon since they will take a return no questions asked.



Since these drives are a hybrid SSD & rotational drive combined, I think they come with software which automatically optimizes it by moving the OS and other often-accessed files to the SSD part, then actively caches things. If this is the case (that it comes with its own software to do this), then a fresh Win7 install may not be necessary. In that case, you could just clone your old drive to this drive and go -- the active software would then optimize things.



Personally, I would do a fresh install of Windows 7 on this drive then use your old drive for storage (music, video, backup, etc.). Just install it as the second hard drive.





I'm going to have it installed at a computer shop

#11
Posted 04/21/2012 05:52 PM   
Okay, but do your own research too to ensure they do it right, otherwise the SSD portion of the drive will be wasted. Also, this does not change my recommendation that you buy it from Amazon due to their no questions asked return policy. In fact, they refund your money now as soon as the tracking number shows you dropped the item off at UPS -- which they pay for.

I have a Samsung laptop with a similar hybrid situation; it runs a background program which continually optimizes what is placed on the SSD; this software came with the laptop.
Okay, but do your own research too to ensure they do it right, otherwise the SSD portion of the drive will be wasted. Also, this does not change my recommendation that you buy it from Amazon due to their no questions asked return policy. In fact, they refund your money now as soon as the tracking number shows you dropped the item off at UPS -- which they pay for.



I have a Samsung laptop with a similar hybrid situation; it runs a background program which continually optimizes what is placed on the SSD; this software came with the laptop.

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#12
Posted 04/22/2012 12:32 AM   
Don't upgrade to an X79 motherboard solely for PCIe 3.0 support. The GTX 680 won't run in PCIe 3.0 on most X79 motherboards anyway (see the disclaimer regarding this limitation [url="http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-680/specifications"]here[/url] on Nvidia's website).

A x16 PCIe 2.0 slot does not bottleneck the 680 anyway. An x8 PCIe 2.0 slot could in certain situations, but for the most part it won't.

Personally, I think your system is fine for a single GTX 680. X79 is a great platform if you need the extra CPU and DRAM throughput, but for gaming alone it's not going to give you a huge advantage over your current set-up (some CPU bound games will run better though).
Don't upgrade to an X79 motherboard solely for PCIe 3.0 support. The GTX 680 won't run in PCIe 3.0 on most X79 motherboards anyway (see the disclaimer regarding this limitation here on Nvidia's website).



A x16 PCIe 2.0 slot does not bottleneck the 680 anyway. An x8 PCIe 2.0 slot could in certain situations, but for the most part it won't.



Personally, I think your system is fine for a single GTX 680. X79 is a great platform if you need the extra CPU and DRAM throughput, but for gaming alone it's not going to give you a huge advantage over your current set-up (some CPU bound games will run better though).

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#13
Posted 04/22/2012 01:50 AM   
Ok i thought theat intoel made a cpu for overclocking an i7 2600k (or 2700k) setup to be "unlocked" with the multiplier so you can drop the multiplier and raise that fbs up for the boost also some boards cone ready to overclock the sandybridge i7 2600k requiring only that you flip a switch? I was watching a video on newegg where asus rep was pimping the p8z68v-pro mobo paired with unlocked i7 and he was saying something about 1 switch overclocking. For the moment i think that would be the fasterst at least untill ivybridge comes out but you need to wait for mobo companys to fix any glitches prior to upgrading to a new chipset.

Ivybridge out today infact...Intel announced that it had begun volume production of Ivy Bridge chips in the third quarter of 2011, with the launch on the 23th April 2012.

and heres the advantages according to wiki...

Ivy Bridge feature improvements over Sandy Bridge include:

Tri-gate transistor technology (less than 50% power consumption at the same performance level as 2-D planar transistors).[9]
PCI Express 3.0 support.
Max CPU multiplier of 63 (57 for Sandy Bridge).
RAM support up to 2800 MT/s in 200 MHz increments.
Intel HD Graphics 2500/4000 with DirectX 11, OpenGL 3.1, and OpenCL 1.1 support.
The built-in GPU is believed to have up to 16 execution units (EUs), compared to Sandy Bridge's maximum of 12.
A new random number generator and the RdRand instruction, codenamed Bull Mountain.
Intel Quick Sync Video.
DDR3L low voltage for mobile processors.
Multiple 4K video playback.

Thermal design power (TDP), according to an October 2011 leaked Intel roadmap, will come in 77/65/55/45/35 W options for desktop processors, while Intel says that mobile processors will use Configurable TDP.

Performance

Compared to Sandy Bridge (according to sources):

5% to 15% increase in CPU performance
20% to 50% increase in integrated GPU performance


Also the new stuff comming out in 2013 google haswell and intel.... very very cool stuff with all new cashe design and all new architecture... but thats a wait so for now its going to be an ivybridge. I would wait a couple months let the cobwebs get shaken out first and let some motherboards get build just for that chip and you will be a lot happier with your choice.


Edited for the haswell content have to point out that intel will have 8 core processor someday...
Ok i thought theat intoel made a cpu for overclocking an i7 2600k (or 2700k) setup to be "unlocked" with the multiplier so you can drop the multiplier and raise that fbs up for the boost also some boards cone ready to overclock the sandybridge i7 2600k requiring only that you flip a switch? I was watching a video on newegg where asus rep was pimping the p8z68v-pro mobo paired with unlocked i7 and he was saying something about 1 switch overclocking. For the moment i think that would be the fasterst at least untill ivybridge comes out but you need to wait for mobo companys to fix any glitches prior to upgrading to a new chipset.



Ivybridge out today infact...Intel announced that it had begun volume production of Ivy Bridge chips in the third quarter of 2011, with the launch on the 23th April 2012.



and heres the advantages according to wiki...



Ivy Bridge feature improvements over Sandy Bridge include:



Tri-gate transistor technology (less than 50% power consumption at the same performance level as 2-D planar transistors).[9]

PCI Express 3.0 support.

Max CPU multiplier of 63 (57 for Sandy Bridge).

RAM support up to 2800 MT/s in 200 MHz increments.

Intel HD Graphics 2500/4000 with DirectX 11, OpenGL 3.1, and OpenCL 1.1 support.

The built-in GPU is believed to have up to 16 execution units (EUs), compared to Sandy Bridge's maximum of 12.

A new random number generator and the RdRand instruction, codenamed Bull Mountain.

Intel Quick Sync Video.

DDR3L low voltage for mobile processors.

Multiple 4K video playback.



Thermal design power (TDP), according to an October 2011 leaked Intel roadmap, will come in 77/65/55/45/35 W options for desktop processors, while Intel says that mobile processors will use Configurable TDP.



Performance



Compared to Sandy Bridge (according to sources):



5% to 15% increase in CPU performance

20% to 50% increase in integrated GPU performance





Also the new stuff comming out in 2013 google haswell and intel.... very very cool stuff with all new cashe design and all new architecture... but thats a wait so for now its going to be an ivybridge. I would wait a couple months let the cobwebs get shaken out first and let some motherboards get build just for that chip and you will be a lot happier with your choice.





Edited for the haswell content have to point out that intel will have 8 core processor someday...

#14
Posted 04/23/2012 08:43 AM   
I wont recommend a hybrid harddisk. Either go SDD only or stick on a 7200RPM /10000 rpm harddisk.

The hybrid harddisk has some GB of SSD and the main rest is the "normal" hardrive that you are used to. Thing is, when the limited GB of the hardrive is reached it will spin up the hardddisk, when its not in use it will turn off that part of the harddisk, meaning you will get several turn on/off physical harddisk during a normal run of computer use. If you use a harddisk without being HYBRID the harddisk is always on until you shutdown the computer or go hibernate mode.
I wont recommend a hybrid harddisk. Either go SDD only or stick on a 7200RPM /10000 rpm harddisk.



The hybrid harddisk has some GB of SSD and the main rest is the "normal" hardrive that you are used to. Thing is, when the limited GB of the hardrive is reached it will spin up the hardddisk, when its not in use it will turn off that part of the harddisk, meaning you will get several turn on/off physical harddisk during a normal run of computer use. If you use a harddisk without being HYBRID the harddisk is always on until you shutdown the computer or go hibernate mode.

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#15
Posted 04/23/2012 11:14 AM   
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