graphics card not running at 100% need help!
so i just finished this build and i tried a few games on it but i noticed it wasnt running smoothly or performing that great, so i got msi afterburner and saw that on most games mu GPU was only hitting about 50-60% load, and fallout new vegas only gets about 10% load. the only game that seems to use 100% of it is BF3 but when things really heat up it starts to spike again. so i am wondering what the problem is, i dont think i have any kind of bottleneck. i did notice however that the system will not load at 100%, i ran prime95 and msi kombustor but the gpu was hitting about 30% load, but i think my power supply wattage is enough for this build.

specs:
amd phenom ii x6 1045t (3.4 GHZ OC)
nvidia gtx 560 (factory OC)
coolermaster haf 912 case
2x 500 GB HDD
8 GB 1600 ddr3 g-skill ares RAM
asus M4A87TD/USB3 motherboard
corsair cx600 600 watt power supply

anybody know what the problem is? ive tried reinstalling drivers/ using different ones.
so i just finished this build and i tried a few games on it but i noticed it wasnt running smoothly or performing that great, so i got msi afterburner and saw that on most games mu GPU was only hitting about 50-60% load, and fallout new vegas only gets about 10% load. the only game that seems to use 100% of it is BF3 but when things really heat up it starts to spike again. so i am wondering what the problem is, i dont think i have any kind of bottleneck. i did notice however that the system will not load at 100%, i ran prime95 and msi kombustor but the gpu was hitting about 30% load, but i think my power supply wattage is enough for this build.



specs:

amd phenom ii x6 1045t (3.4 GHZ OC)

nvidia gtx 560 (factory OC)

coolermaster haf 912 case

2x 500 GB HDD

8 GB 1600 ddr3 g-skill ares RAM

asus M4A87TD/USB3 motherboard

corsair cx600 600 watt power supply



anybody know what the problem is? ive tried reinstalling drivers/ using different ones.

#1
Posted 04/15/2012 06:58 PM   
Your PSU is borderline for your build, that CPU, 2 HDD, and the GPU are drawing a lot. What are your temps looking like?
Your PSU is borderline for your build, that CPU, 2 HDD, and the GPU are drawing a lot. What are your temps looking like?

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#2
Posted 04/15/2012 07:04 PM   
[quote name='HollywoodPCRepair' date='15 April 2012 - 01:04 PM' timestamp='1334516677' post='1396738']
Your PSU is borderline for your build, that CPU, 2 HDD, and the GPU are drawing a lot. What are your temps looking like?
[/quote]

i dont think my psu is the problem cause battlefield 3 actually maxes out the GPU, and when playing that game my gpu is around 55-60 degrees celcius, and i know someone who has a 6970 with a 600 watt power supply.
[quote name='HollywoodPCRepair' date='15 April 2012 - 01:04 PM' timestamp='1334516677' post='1396738']

Your PSU is borderline for your build, that CPU, 2 HDD, and the GPU are drawing a lot. What are your temps looking like?





i dont think my psu is the problem cause battlefield 3 actually maxes out the GPU, and when playing that game my gpu is around 55-60 degrees celcius, and i know someone who has a 6970 with a 600 watt power supply.

#3
Posted 04/15/2012 07:14 PM   
Well everything sounds OK. Start running diagnostics; Windows Memory Diagnostic, chkdsk with surface scan, Windows Update, hard to say.
Well everything sounds OK. Start running diagnostics; Windows Memory Diagnostic, chkdsk with surface scan, Windows Update, hard to say.

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eVGA X58 Classified 4-Way SLI motherboard

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EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480

KingWin Mach 1 ATX 1220-Watt Power Supply

Western Digital VelociRaptor 10000 RPM hdd



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#4
Posted 04/15/2012 07:16 PM   
[quote name='HollywoodPCRepair' date='15 April 2012 - 01:16 PM' timestamp='1334517400' post='1396743']
Well everything sounds OK. Start running diagnostics; Windows Memory Diagnostic, chkdsk with surface scan, Windows Update, hard to say.
[/quote]

everything turned out to be ok, what do you suggest i do?
[quote name='HollywoodPCRepair' date='15 April 2012 - 01:16 PM' timestamp='1334517400' post='1396743']

Well everything sounds OK. Start running diagnostics; Windows Memory Diagnostic, chkdsk with surface scan, Windows Update, hard to say.





everything turned out to be ok, what do you suggest i do?

#5
Posted 04/15/2012 07:33 PM   
Go into motherboard setup, reset to defaults. Go to motherboard manufacturer site, get latest BIOS update. Your card is in the first PCIE slot, correct (furthest from the edge, toward the center of the board).
Go into motherboard setup, reset to defaults. Go to motherboard manufacturer site, get latest BIOS update. Your card is in the first PCIE slot, correct (furthest from the edge, toward the center of the board).

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eVGA X58 Classified 4-Way SLI motherboard

HAF-X Case, Corsair H80 CPU Liquid Cooler

12GB System RAM

EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480

KingWin Mach 1 ATX 1220-Watt Power Supply

Western Digital VelociRaptor 10000 RPM hdd



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#6
Posted 04/15/2012 07:42 PM   
[quote name='tommy2016' date='15 April 2012 - 11:33 AM' timestamp='1334518418' post='1396752']
everything turned out to be ok, what do you suggest i do?
[/quote]

[color="#4169E1"]Only play games in which the game developers have programmed the game to push the video card to close to 100% GPU-usage.
If the game developer has not programmed the game to push the video card that much then it won't happen.
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 was only pushing my video card to about 40% GPU-usage then after 3 or 4 game patches later my GPU-usage is up to about 95%.
If you increase the amount of antialiasing you're using a lot that'll increase GPU-usage.[/color]
[quote name='tommy2016' date='15 April 2012 - 11:33 AM' timestamp='1334518418' post='1396752']

everything turned out to be ok, what do you suggest i do?





Only play games in which the game developers have programmed the game to push the video card to close to 100% GPU-usage.

If the game developer has not programmed the game to push the video card that much then it won't happen.

Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 was only pushing my video card to about 40% GPU-usage then after 3 or 4 game patches later my GPU-usage is up to about 95%.

If you increase the amount of antialiasing you're using a lot that'll increase GPU-usage.

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#7
Posted 04/15/2012 07:51 PM   
[quote name='Infinity7' date='15 April 2012 - 01:51 PM' timestamp='1334519463' post='1396760']
[color="#4169E1"]Only play games in which the game developers have programmed the game to push the video card to close to 100% GPU-usage.
If the game developer has not programmed the game to push the video card that much then it won't happen.
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 was only pushing my video card to about 40% GPU-usage then after 3 or 4 game patches later my GPU-usage is up to about 95%.
If you increase the amount of antialiasing you're using a lot that'll increase GPU-usage.[/color]
[/quote]

what about fallout new vegas? i set it to ultra high quality and i hit only 10-15 % load.
[quote name='Infinity7' date='15 April 2012 - 01:51 PM' timestamp='1334519463' post='1396760']

Only play games in which the game developers have programmed the game to push the video card to close to 100% GPU-usage.

If the game developer has not programmed the game to push the video card that much then it won't happen.

Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 was only pushing my video card to about 40% GPU-usage then after 3 or 4 game patches later my GPU-usage is up to about 95%.

If you increase the amount of antialiasing you're using a lot that'll increase GPU-usage.





what about fallout new vegas? i set it to ultra high quality and i hit only 10-15 % load.

#8
Posted 04/15/2012 08:33 PM   
[quote name='HollywoodPCRepair' date='15 April 2012 - 01:42 PM' timestamp='1334518931' post='1396754']
Go into motherboard setup, reset to defaults. Go to motherboard manufacturer site, get latest BIOS update. Your card is in the first PCIE slot, correct (furthest from the edge, toward the center of the board).
[/quote]

yes it is and i reset and motherboard is up to date, same problem :(
[quote name='HollywoodPCRepair' date='15 April 2012 - 01:42 PM' timestamp='1334518931' post='1396754']

Go into motherboard setup, reset to defaults. Go to motherboard manufacturer site, get latest BIOS update. Your card is in the first PCIE slot, correct (furthest from the edge, toward the center of the board).





yes it is and i reset and motherboard is up to date, same problem :(

#9
Posted 04/15/2012 09:27 PM   
[quote name='tommy2016' date='15 April 2012 - 05:27 PM' timestamp='1334525244' post='1396786']
yes it is and i reset and motherboard is up to date, same problem :(
[/quote]
First of all people have a misconception about GPU usage....GPU will not always be at 100% if the game doesnt require the much power from the graphics card....for example on BF3, Crysis 2(high res), Metro 2033, Skyrim(high res) games that require a lot from your GPU at a high res like 1080 or higher then the GPU usage will be at 100%, games like MW3 and lesser graphic intensive games then the GPU usage will be much lower, I have a PII X6 1100t, GTX 570 2.5 gb, 8gb and on mw3, and other games, like source engine games, my gpu usage is very low but FPS is constantly at 60, now take off vsync so that it doesnt cap the FPS and you will see high frames but the GPU usage is high, and GPU is hotter....

so vsync has a lot to do with it and how the game is made and how demanding it is has a lot to do with it....so don't worry about GPU usage and IM sure your system is fine..

but if you are worried that you are not getting a constant 60 fps on games like BF3 well remember, your GTX 560 is only a MID range card, so it will push it to max but you will not be able to max it at 1080p and get a constant 60 fps per second, but you should get decent frames New Vegas...GEforce says 75 fps at 1080p for a 560...I have a GTX570 and a Phenom 1100t, and I find geforce.com to be very accurate on what you should be getting....at 1080p or higher CPU matters less and less
[quote name='tommy2016' date='15 April 2012 - 05:27 PM' timestamp='1334525244' post='1396786']

yes it is and i reset and motherboard is up to date, same problem :(



First of all people have a misconception about GPU usage....GPU will not always be at 100% if the game doesnt require the much power from the graphics card....for example on BF3, Crysis 2(high res), Metro 2033, Skyrim(high res) games that require a lot from your GPU at a high res like 1080 or higher then the GPU usage will be at 100%, games like MW3 and lesser graphic intensive games then the GPU usage will be much lower, I have a PII X6 1100t, GTX 570 2.5 gb, 8gb and on mw3, and other games, like source engine games, my gpu usage is very low but FPS is constantly at 60, now take off vsync so that it doesnt cap the FPS and you will see high frames but the GPU usage is high, and GPU is hotter....



so vsync has a lot to do with it and how the game is made and how demanding it is has a lot to do with it....so don't worry about GPU usage and IM sure your system is fine..



but if you are worried that you are not getting a constant 60 fps on games like BF3 well remember, your GTX 560 is only a MID range card, so it will push it to max but you will not be able to max it at 1080p and get a constant 60 fps per second, but you should get decent frames New Vegas...GEforce says 75 fps at 1080p for a 560...I have a GTX570 and a Phenom 1100t, and I find geforce.com to be very accurate on what you should be getting....at 1080p or higher CPU matters less and less

#10
Posted 04/16/2012 04:59 AM   
FO-NV expect mid 40 to mid 50's% gpu use in a large open Wasteland area, In an enclosed area such as a vault it may dip just below 20%, but normally mid 30's%. Outdoor closed spaces like
the NV strip mid 30-40's% should be expected. [Phenom 965 / GTX 560ti @ 1920x1080 ]
What resolution are you running at ?

EDIT: Just had a look at FO3. They must have done some optimising for NV as F03 uses 90+% gpu out in the Wasteland.
FO-NV expect mid 40 to mid 50's% gpu use in a large open Wasteland area, In an enclosed area such as a vault it may dip just below 20%, but normally mid 30's%. Outdoor closed spaces like

the NV strip mid 30-40's% should be expected. [Phenom 965 / GTX 560ti @ 1920x1080 ]

What resolution are you running at ?



EDIT: Just had a look at FO3. They must have done some optimising for NV as F03 uses 90+% gpu out in the Wasteland.

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#11
Posted 04/16/2012 06:57 AM   
[quote name='zeekancient' date='15 April 2012 - 10:59 PM' timestamp='1334552350' post='1396864']
First of all people have a misconception about GPU usage....GPU will not always be at 100% if the game doesnt require the much power from the graphics card....for example on BF3, Crysis 2(high res), Metro 2033, Skyrim(high res) games that require a lot from your GPU at a high res like 1080 or higher then the GPU usage will be at 100%, games like MW3 and lesser graphic intensive games then the GPU usage will be much lower, I have a PII X6 1100t, GTX 570 2.5 gb, 8gb and on mw3, and other games, like source engine games, my gpu usage is very low but FPS is constantly at 60, now take off vsync so that it doesnt cap the FPS and you will see high frames but the GPU usage is high, and GPU is hotter....

so vsync has a lot to do with it and how the game is made and how demanding it is has a lot to do with it....so don't worry about GPU usage and IM sure your system is fine..

but if you are worried that you are not getting a constant 60 fps on games like BF3 well remember, your GTX 560 is only a MID range card, so it will push it to max but you will not be able to max it at 1080p and get a constant 60 fps per second, but you should get decent frames New Vegas...GEforce says 75 fps at 1080p for a 560...I have a GTX570 and a Phenom 1100t, and I find geforce.com to be very accurate on what you should be getting....at 1080p or higher CPU matters less and less
[/quote]

well im getting around 20 fps in open wasteland areas in FO new vegas so there is definitely a problem there

[quote name='BossDweebe' date='16 April 2012 - 12:57 AM' timestamp='1334559468' post='1396889']
FO-NV expect mid 40 to mid 50's% gpu use in a large open Wasteland area, In an enclosed area such as a vault it may dip just below 20%, but normally mid 30's%. Outdoor closed spaces like
the NV strip mid 30-40's% should be expected. [Phenom 965 / GTX 560ti @ 1920x1080 ]
What resolution are you running at ?

EDIT: Just had a look at FO3. They must have done some optimising for NV as F03 uses 90+% gpu out in the Wasteland.
[/quote]

im running at 1600x900 and in open areas it starts lagging and goes down to around 20 fps, and the load is only at 15%
[quote name='zeekancient' date='15 April 2012 - 10:59 PM' timestamp='1334552350' post='1396864']

First of all people have a misconception about GPU usage....GPU will not always be at 100% if the game doesnt require the much power from the graphics card....for example on BF3, Crysis 2(high res), Metro 2033, Skyrim(high res) games that require a lot from your GPU at a high res like 1080 or higher then the GPU usage will be at 100%, games like MW3 and lesser graphic intensive games then the GPU usage will be much lower, I have a PII X6 1100t, GTX 570 2.5 gb, 8gb and on mw3, and other games, like source engine games, my gpu usage is very low but FPS is constantly at 60, now take off vsync so that it doesnt cap the FPS and you will see high frames but the GPU usage is high, and GPU is hotter....



so vsync has a lot to do with it and how the game is made and how demanding it is has a lot to do with it....so don't worry about GPU usage and IM sure your system is fine..



but if you are worried that you are not getting a constant 60 fps on games like BF3 well remember, your GTX 560 is only a MID range card, so it will push it to max but you will not be able to max it at 1080p and get a constant 60 fps per second, but you should get decent frames New Vegas...GEforce says 75 fps at 1080p for a 560...I have a GTX570 and a Phenom 1100t, and I find geforce.com to be very accurate on what you should be getting....at 1080p or higher CPU matters less and less





well im getting around 20 fps in open wasteland areas in FO new vegas so there is definitely a problem there

[quote name='BossDweebe' date='16 April 2012 - 12:57 AM' timestamp='1334559468' post='1396889']

FO-NV expect mid 40 to mid 50's% gpu use in a large open Wasteland area, In an enclosed area such as a vault it may dip just below 20%, but normally mid 30's%. Outdoor closed spaces like

the NV strip mid 30-40's% should be expected. [Phenom 965 / GTX 560ti @ 1920x1080 ]

What resolution are you running at ?



EDIT: Just had a look at FO3. They must have done some optimising for NV as F03 uses 90+% gpu out in the Wasteland.





im running at 1600x900 and in open areas it starts lagging and goes down to around 20 fps, and the load is only at 15%

#12
Posted 04/16/2012 09:36 PM   
[quote name='tommy2016' date='16 April 2012 - 05:36 PM' timestamp='1334612197' post='1397215']
well im getting around 20 fps in open wasteland areas in FO new vegas so there is definitely a problem there



im running at 1600x900 and in open areas it starts lagging and goes down to around 20 fps, and the load is only at 15%
[/quote]
while I can't speak for New Vegas exactly, I do know that doesnt seem right....ofcourse Im sure New Vegas must be a console port, thus making it more CPU intensive and usually unoptimized

What other games do you have a problem with? I have a similar processor(1100t) oc'd slightly paired with a GTX 570 and have not experienced anything that bad...I play at 1080p and like I said GPU demanding games have 100% load, while others dont

however I did have a similar problem with Skyrim when it first came out...maxed, the game would constantly be at 60 in doors, and out doors would dip to the 30s sometimes lower, so I had to turn down shadows and shading and overclock my CPU, this was due to it being ported from console and being very CPU demanding and not well optimized...but since then the latest Nvidia drivers and patches(even high res) have completely eradicated the problem...I currently have everything maxed with the high res tex pack and I Skyrim rarely dips below 55 fps in those same open areas outdoors...

so I don't know if it could be similar problems with New Vegas...try ocing a bit higher than 3.4ghz and see if FPS improves...also get the latest drivers and patches for the game...if you play on steam it is the latest version...
[quote name='tommy2016' date='16 April 2012 - 05:36 PM' timestamp='1334612197' post='1397215']

well im getting around 20 fps in open wasteland areas in FO new vegas so there is definitely a problem there







im running at 1600x900 and in open areas it starts lagging and goes down to around 20 fps, and the load is only at 15%



while I can't speak for New Vegas exactly, I do know that doesnt seem right....ofcourse Im sure New Vegas must be a console port, thus making it more CPU intensive and usually unoptimized



What other games do you have a problem with? I have a similar processor(1100t) oc'd slightly paired with a GTX 570 and have not experienced anything that bad...I play at 1080p and like I said GPU demanding games have 100% load, while others dont



however I did have a similar problem with Skyrim when it first came out...maxed, the game would constantly be at 60 in doors, and out doors would dip to the 30s sometimes lower, so I had to turn down shadows and shading and overclock my CPU, this was due to it being ported from console and being very CPU demanding and not well optimized...but since then the latest Nvidia drivers and patches(even high res) have completely eradicated the problem...I currently have everything maxed with the high res tex pack and I Skyrim rarely dips below 55 fps in those same open areas outdoors...



so I don't know if it could be similar problems with New Vegas...try ocing a bit higher than 3.4ghz and see if FPS improves...also get the latest drivers and patches for the game...if you play on steam it is the latest version...

#13
Posted 04/17/2012 01:47 AM   
There is no problem with the system specs. My cpu peaks in FO-NV @ 50%, but runs consistently in the 40+% range (Stock Phenom 965 clocks - 3.4GHz), so the stock 3.2GHZ for the phenom ii x6 1045t should not be an issue.
The odd thing is BF3 running well... /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />
If FO-NV is the only game with a problem then patches may help, as suggested, or the game is not installed well.

It's always best to troubleshoot from base settings. Did you revert all of your your BIOS setting to default as suggested by Hollywood ? If you are using software to OC the cpu have you disabled that OC as well ?
It may help to uninstall Prime and any other synthetic benchmarking software as well.
Running in - [url="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135"]Clean Boot[/url] - occasionally helps find conflicting, or system hogging, software or services that may be running in the background.

EDIT: Have you installed mods that may be dragging down performance ?
There is no problem with the system specs. My cpu peaks in FO-NV @ 50%, but runs consistently in the 40+% range (Stock Phenom 965 clocks - 3.4GHz), so the stock 3.2GHZ for the phenom ii x6 1045t should not be an issue.

The odd thing is BF3 running well... /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />

If FO-NV is the only game with a problem then patches may help, as suggested, or the game is not installed well.



It's always best to troubleshoot from base settings. Did you revert all of your your BIOS setting to default as suggested by Hollywood ? If you are using software to OC the cpu have you disabled that OC as well ?

It may help to uninstall Prime and any other synthetic benchmarking software as well.

Running in - Clean Boot - occasionally helps find conflicting, or system hogging, software or services that may be running in the background.



EDIT: Have you installed mods that may be dragging down performance ?

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#14
Posted 04/17/2012 07:48 AM   
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