sli 450 and 570?
hello i am new on forums but not new to nvidia or computers but this one im not 100% on i have a gts 450 and a gtx 570 im am runing them on the same computer right now but not sli i would like to ask if the 450 and the 570 can be sli
i know both can be sli
570 3 way
450 2 way

ok i read that diffent ones like gt gtx gts cant be use with each other sli but im runing them on my computer right now and runing 4 screens no errors i dont thk thay will but if would save me $300.00+ for a lil i plan to get 3 570 and sli them but have to buy screens and other 2 cards and just droped like $1100 on upgrades for my computer and plan to drop more uggg lol


Operating System: Windows 7
CPU Type: Intel® Core™ 2600K 5GHz+ Extreme Evolution CPU Core i7 -1155 990X+ 2700K+ 3960X+ Unlocked 4.6GHz SLV
System Memory: Corsair CMZ32GX3M4X1866C10 Vengeance Desktop Memory Kit - 32GB (4x 8GB), PC3-15000, DDR3-1866MHz, 240-pin DIMM, 1.5V, CL10, XMP Ready
Motherboard: EVGA 270-WS-W555-A2 Classified SR-2 Motherboard - Intel 5520 Chipset, Dual LGA1366, 4-Way SLI, CrossFireX, Triple Channel DDR3, Dual Gigabit LAN
1st Video Card Model: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 HD SuperClocked
2ed Video Card Model: NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 Overclocked
Video Card Memory: 3.97 GB Video Card Driver
Hitachi Deskstar 0S03364 3.5" Hard Drive - 4TB, SATA III, 6GBps, 5400 RPM, 32MB, OEM
Download Speed: 7.58 MB/s
hello i am new on forums but not new to nvidia or computers but this one im not 100% on i have a gts 450 and a gtx 570 im am runing them on the same computer right now but not sli i would like to ask if the 450 and the 570 can be sli

i know both can be sli

570 3 way

450 2 way



ok i read that diffent ones like gt gtx gts cant be use with each other sli but im runing them on my computer right now and runing 4 screens no errors i dont thk thay will but if would save me $300.00+ for a lil i plan to get 3 570 and sli them but have to buy screens and other 2 cards and just droped like $1100 on upgrades for my computer and plan to drop more uggg lol





Operating System: Windows 7

CPU Type: Intel® Core™ 2600K 5GHz+ Extreme Evolution CPU Core i7 -1155 990X+ 2700K+ 3960X+ Unlocked 4.6GHz SLV

System Memory: Corsair CMZ32GX3M4X1866C10 Vengeance Desktop Memory Kit - 32GB (4x 8GB), PC3-15000, DDR3-1866MHz, 240-pin DIMM, 1.5V, CL10, XMP Ready

Motherboard: EVGA 270-WS-W555-A2 Classified SR-2 Motherboard - Intel 5520 Chipset, Dual LGA1366, 4-Way SLI, CrossFireX, Triple Channel DDR3, Dual Gigabit LAN

1st Video Card Model: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 HD SuperClocked

2ed Video Card Model: NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450 Overclocked

Video Card Memory: 3.97 GB Video Card Driver

Hitachi Deskstar 0S03364 3.5" Hard Drive - 4TB, SATA III, 6GBps, 5400 RPM, 32MB, OEM

Download Speed: 7.58 MB/s

#1
Posted 04/15/2012 08:05 AM   
You cannot SLi two different cards that are not the same model. Simple as that.

NVidia has yet to impliment SLi in the form of being able to mix cards because of the inherent problems that could create.

In other words, you would need another 570 or 450 to SLi with the other of the same model, but a 450 and 570 cannot SLi. Same goes for a 560 and 570 or whichever. They have to be the exact same model of card. They can be different brands, and even different coolers etc, but they have to be the same model.
You cannot SLi two different cards that are not the same model. Simple as that.



NVidia has yet to impliment SLi in the form of being able to mix cards because of the inherent problems that could create.



In other words, you would need another 570 or 450 to SLi with the other of the same model, but a 450 and 570 cannot SLi. Same goes for a 560 and 570 or whichever. They have to be the exact same model of card. They can be different brands, and even different coolers etc, but they have to be the same model.



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#2
Posted 04/15/2012 09:35 AM   
ugg ok tyvm didnt thk so but im runing them bot right now so i thk id ask to sli them well tyvm

/closed i got what i need to know ty all looking at this who was going to help
ugg ok tyvm didnt thk so but im runing them bot right now so i thk id ask to sli them well tyvm

/closed i got what i need to know ty all looking at this who was going to help

#3
Posted 04/15/2012 10:28 AM   
[url="http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158907"]DifferentSLI 296.10 modded driver. (Enabling different cards in SLI)[/url]

I haven't tried this but it might be worth a look. The author appears to be running a GTX 560 ti and a GTX 460 in 2-way SLI.
DifferentSLI 296.10 modded driver. (Enabling different cards in SLI)



I haven't tried this but it might be worth a look. The author appears to be running a GTX 560 ti and a GTX 460 in 2-way SLI.

HP Firebird 802 + HP 2159m monitor + Windows 7 Home Premium + Windows 8 Pro with Media Center
2 x GeForce 9800 S dGPU in 2-way SLI + nForce 760i SLI mGPU
GeForce Display Driver 266.58 WHQL installs correctly without modification.
GeForce Display Driver 296.10 WHQL requires modified NV_DISP.INF file to install correctly but NVIDIA Control Panel is broken.
GeForce Display Driver 320.49 WHQL requires modified NV_DISP.INF file to install correctly but 2-way SLI is broken.

#4
Posted 04/15/2012 05:28 PM   
[quote name='firekknight' date='15 April 2012 - 04:28 AM' timestamp='1334485698' post='1396611']
ugg ok tyvm didnt thk so but im runing them bot right now so i thk id ask to sli them well tyvm

/closed i got what i need to know ty all looking at this who was going to help
[/quote]

It's the one thing NVidia hasn't done yet that AMD has. CrossfireX is the support of different generation/type of cards being able to work in unison, I.E. you can CrossfireX a 6970 & 7970, or a 5970 & 7970, etc... I think the reason NVidia hasn't done it though, is that it does have issues, and they're probably trying to figure ways to correct that before they try to impliment it. Thing about it is, the GTS 450 would drag down the 570 in many ways. It has less vRAM, which means you'd be nurfed to 1GB usable on both cards in SLi, and you'd probably suffer from stuttering whenever you go below VSync rate, because of the GTS 450 being so much lower at everything than the 570. *shrug* Just somethin' to think about.

Also: Don't try hacked drivers, they ALWAYS have problems (I've run them before)
[quote name='firekknight' date='15 April 2012 - 04:28 AM' timestamp='1334485698' post='1396611']

ugg ok tyvm didnt thk so but im runing them bot right now so i thk id ask to sli them well tyvm



/closed i got what i need to know ty all looking at this who was going to help





It's the one thing NVidia hasn't done yet that AMD has. CrossfireX is the support of different generation/type of cards being able to work in unison, I.E. you can CrossfireX a 6970 & 7970, or a 5970 & 7970, etc... I think the reason NVidia hasn't done it though, is that it does have issues, and they're probably trying to figure ways to correct that before they try to impliment it. Thing about it is, the GTS 450 would drag down the 570 in many ways. It has less vRAM, which means you'd be nurfed to 1GB usable on both cards in SLi, and you'd probably suffer from stuttering whenever you go below VSync rate, because of the GTS 450 being so much lower at everything than the 570. *shrug* Just somethin' to think about.



Also: Don't try hacked drivers, they ALWAYS have problems (I've run them before)



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#5
Posted 04/15/2012 06:37 PM   
[quote name='Dunsany' date='15 April 2012 - 06:28 PM' timestamp='1334510924' post='1396705']
[url="http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158907"]DifferentSLI 296.10 modded driver. (Enabling different cards in SLI)[/url]

I haven't tried this but it might be worth a look. The author appears to be running a GTX 560 ti and a GTX 460 in 2-way SLI.
[/quote]

Very, very interesting my friend. Don't know how I missed this. I'm usually up on this type of stuff. After reading through the thread, it looks like it's legit. However, only GPU's from the same family seem to work reliably. I'm going to try out a GTX 580/480 combo for SLI.

Apparently, Nvidia is holding out on us when it comes to supporting different GPU's in SLI.
[quote name='Dunsany' date='15 April 2012 - 06:28 PM' timestamp='1334510924' post='1396705']

DifferentSLI 296.10 modded driver. (Enabling different cards in SLI)



I haven't tried this but it might be worth a look. The author appears to be running a GTX 560 ti and a GTX 460 in 2-way SLI.





Very, very interesting my friend. Don't know how I missed this. I'm usually up on this type of stuff. After reading through the thread, it looks like it's legit. However, only GPU's from the same family seem to work reliably. I'm going to try out a GTX 580/480 combo for SLI.



Apparently, Nvidia is holding out on us when it comes to supporting different GPU's in SLI.

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#6
Posted 04/15/2012 08:18 PM   
[quote name='slamscaper' date='15 April 2012 - 03:18 PM' timestamp='1334521132' post='1396770']
Very, very interesting my friend. Don't know how I missed this. I'm usually up on this type of stuff. After reading through the thread, it looks like it's legit. However, only GPU's from the same family seem to work reliably. I'm going to try out a GTX 580/480 combo for SLI.

Apparently, Nvidia is holding out on us when it comes to supporting different GPU's in SLI.
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give me the notes on here my 450 is like a super 450 btw i know it dont matter but 30% over clocked i thk got it off a friend 450 has power behid it only thing it relly dont have on the 570 is the 320 bit its a bad ass lil thing ill tell u that lol its max gpu clock is higher then my 570 and memory is is only off of 60 of my 570 lol

useing precisionx to find that info out
[quote name='slamscaper' date='15 April 2012 - 03:18 PM' timestamp='1334521132' post='1396770']

Very, very interesting my friend. Don't know how I missed this. I'm usually up on this type of stuff. After reading through the thread, it looks like it's legit. However, only GPU's from the same family seem to work reliably. I'm going to try out a GTX 580/480 combo for SLI.



Apparently, Nvidia is holding out on us when it comes to supporting different GPU's in SLI.



give me the notes on here my 450 is like a super 450 btw i know it dont matter but 30% over clocked i thk got it off a friend 450 has power behid it only thing it relly dont have on the 570 is the 320 bit its a bad ass lil thing ill tell u that lol its max gpu clock is higher then my 570 and memory is is only off of 60 of my 570 lol



useing precisionx to find that info out

#7
Posted 04/15/2012 08:49 PM   
[quote name='firekknight' date='15 April 2012 - 09:49 PM' timestamp='1334522951' post='1396780']
give me the notes on here my 450 is like a super 450 btw i know it dont matter but 30% over clocked i thk got it off a friend 450 has power behid it only thing it relly dont have on the 570 is the 320 bit its a bad ass lil thing ill tell u that lol its max gpu clock is higher then my 570 and memory is is only off of 60 of my 570 lol

useing precisionx to find that info out
[/quote]

Well, typically I wholeheartedly agree with Honey Badger's recommendation of not running modified drivers. However, when I saw a legitimate chance to SLI my 580/480 combo I just HAD to give it a try.

Unfortunately (and unsurprisingly), the modded driver failed miserably for me. After installing the 296.10 drivers and modding them, I was greeted with the standard popup that states that my system is SLI capable (it even stated that I was missing my bridge!). I then powered down my system and installed a two-way SLI bridge which connected the 580/480 together. Then I booted my machine up and ran Heaven 3.0 on a single 580 for a reference score. After that, I tried to enable SLI in the control panel (with plans to run Heaven 3.0 again) but my machine froze and BSOD'ed immediately (LOL). At this point, I couldn't even boot into Windows because it would crash at the log-in screen, which was due to the fact that SLI was still enabled. Being that I couldn't disable SLI via the official method, I had to spend a few minutes to fix the problem. In the end it was a huge waste of time, but was still good research.

I should also note that the .cmd file included with this modified driver enables Win 7's "test mode" to prevent the OS from blocking the unsigned driver. Enabling the test mode is a security risk, so this is not something I'd recommend for most folks. The author makes no mention of this little tidbit, plus he doesn't even provide directions that explain how to disable the test mode if you decide to uninstall the modified driver. That's not good practice.

The moral of the story: Stick with identical GPU's for SLI until Nvidia officially supports mixed GPU's.
[quote name='firekknight' date='15 April 2012 - 09:49 PM' timestamp='1334522951' post='1396780']

give me the notes on here my 450 is like a super 450 btw i know it dont matter but 30% over clocked i thk got it off a friend 450 has power behid it only thing it relly dont have on the 570 is the 320 bit its a bad ass lil thing ill tell u that lol its max gpu clock is higher then my 570 and memory is is only off of 60 of my 570 lol



useing precisionx to find that info out





Well, typically I wholeheartedly agree with Honey Badger's recommendation of not running modified drivers. However, when I saw a legitimate chance to SLI my 580/480 combo I just HAD to give it a try.



Unfortunately (and unsurprisingly), the modded driver failed miserably for me. After installing the 296.10 drivers and modding them, I was greeted with the standard popup that states that my system is SLI capable (it even stated that I was missing my bridge!). I then powered down my system and installed a two-way SLI bridge which connected the 580/480 together. Then I booted my machine up and ran Heaven 3.0 on a single 580 for a reference score. After that, I tried to enable SLI in the control panel (with plans to run Heaven 3.0 again) but my machine froze and BSOD'ed immediately (LOL). At this point, I couldn't even boot into Windows because it would crash at the log-in screen, which was due to the fact that SLI was still enabled. Being that I couldn't disable SLI via the official method, I had to spend a few minutes to fix the problem. In the end it was a huge waste of time, but was still good research.



I should also note that the .cmd file included with this modified driver enables Win 7's "test mode" to prevent the OS from blocking the unsigned driver. Enabling the test mode is a security risk, so this is not something I'd recommend for most folks. The author makes no mention of this little tidbit, plus he doesn't even provide directions that explain how to disable the test mode if you decide to uninstall the modified driver. That's not good practice.



The moral of the story: Stick with identical GPU's for SLI until Nvidia officially supports mixed GPU's.

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#8
Posted 04/15/2012 10:22 PM   
[quote name='slamscaper' date='15 April 2012 - 05:22 PM' timestamp='1334528529' post='1396802']
Well, typically I wholeheartedly agree with Honey Badger's recommendation of not running modified drivers. However, when I saw a legitimate chance to SLI my 580/480 combo I just HAD to give it a try.

Unfortunately (and unsurprisingly), the modded driver failed miserably for me. After installing the 296.10 drivers and modding them, I was greeted with the standard popup that states that my system is SLI capable (it even stated that I was missing my bridge!). I then powered down my system and installed a two-way SLI bridge which connected the 580/480 together. Then I booted my machine up and ran Heaven 3.0 on a single 580 for a reference score. After that, I tried to enable SLI in the control panel (with plans to run Heaven 3.0 again) but my machine froze and BSOD'ed immediately (LOL). At this point, I couldn't even boot into Windows because it would crash at the log-in screen, which was due to the fact that SLI was still enabled. Being that I couldn't disable SLI via the official method, I had to spend a few minutes to fix the problem. In the end it was a huge waste of time, but was still good research.

I should also note that the .cmd file included with this modified driver enables Win 7's "test mode" to prevent the OS from blocking the unsigned driver. Enabling the test mode is a security risk, so this is not something I'd recommend for most folks. The author makes no mention of this little tidbit, plus he doesn't even provide directions that explain how to disable the test mode if you decide to uninstall the modified driver. That's not good practice.

The moral of the story: Stick with identical GPU's for SLI until Nvidia officially supports mixed GPU's.
[/quote]


cool for 1st time post i got relly good people and answers ty all for the help its a no go get the other 570 tyvm for the help :)
[quote name='slamscaper' date='15 April 2012 - 05:22 PM' timestamp='1334528529' post='1396802']

Well, typically I wholeheartedly agree with Honey Badger's recommendation of not running modified drivers. However, when I saw a legitimate chance to SLI my 580/480 combo I just HAD to give it a try.



Unfortunately (and unsurprisingly), the modded driver failed miserably for me. After installing the 296.10 drivers and modding them, I was greeted with the standard popup that states that my system is SLI capable (it even stated that I was missing my bridge!). I then powered down my system and installed a two-way SLI bridge which connected the 580/480 together. Then I booted my machine up and ran Heaven 3.0 on a single 580 for a reference score. After that, I tried to enable SLI in the control panel (with plans to run Heaven 3.0 again) but my machine froze and BSOD'ed immediately (LOL). At this point, I couldn't even boot into Windows because it would crash at the log-in screen, which was due to the fact that SLI was still enabled. Being that I couldn't disable SLI via the official method, I had to spend a few minutes to fix the problem. In the end it was a huge waste of time, but was still good research.



I should also note that the .cmd file included with this modified driver enables Win 7's "test mode" to prevent the OS from blocking the unsigned driver. Enabling the test mode is a security risk, so this is not something I'd recommend for most folks. The author makes no mention of this little tidbit, plus he doesn't even provide directions that explain how to disable the test mode if you decide to uninstall the modified driver. That's not good practice.



The moral of the story: Stick with identical GPU's for SLI until Nvidia officially supports mixed GPU's.







cool for 1st time post i got relly good people and answers ty all for the help its a no go get the other 570 tyvm for the help :)

#9
Posted 04/16/2012 12:11 AM   
[quote name='Dunsany' date='15 April 2012 - 12:28 PM' timestamp='1334510924' post='1396705']
[url="http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158907"]DifferentSLI 296.10 modded driver. (Enabling different cards in SLI)[/url]

I haven't tried this but it might be worth a look. The author appears to be running a GTX 560 ti and a GTX 460 in 2-way SLI.
[/quote]


hmm now this is something every one here should read in to this if u have not
[quote name='Dunsany' date='15 April 2012 - 12:28 PM' timestamp='1334510924' post='1396705']

DifferentSLI 296.10 modded driver. (Enabling different cards in SLI)



I haven't tried this but it might be worth a look. The author appears to be running a GTX 560 ti and a GTX 460 in 2-way SLI.







hmm now this is something every one here should read in to this if u have not

#10
Posted 04/16/2012 12:18 AM   
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