Pentium D bottlenecking GTS450?/
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I would like to know whether my pentium d (3.00 ghz) would bottleneck my gfx card????

dont worry about the psu
520 W it is


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CPU
Intel Pentium D 925
Cores 2
Threads 2
Name Intel Pentium D 925
Code Name Presler
Package Socket 775 LGA
Technology 65nm
Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz
Family F
Extended Family F
Model 6
Extended Model 6
Stepping 5
Revision D0
Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T
Bus Speed 199.5 MHz
Rated Bus Speed 798.1 MHz
Stock Core Speed 3000 MHz
Stock Bus Speed 200 MHz
Caches
L1 Data Cache Size 2 x 16 KBytes
L1 trace cache 2 x 12 Kuops
L2 Unified Cache Size 2 x 2048 KBytes
Core 0
Core Speed 2992.7 MHz
Multiplier x 15.0
Bus Speed 199.5 MHz
Rated Bus Speed 798.1 MHz
Thread 1
APIC ID 0
Core 1
Core Speed 2394.2 MHz
Multiplier x 12.0
Bus Speed 199.5 MHz
Rated Bus Speed 798.1 MHz
Thread 1
APIC ID 1
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I would like to know whether my pentium d (3.00 ghz) would bottleneck my gfx card????



dont worry about the psu

520 W it is





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CPU

Intel Pentium D 925

Cores 2

Threads 2

Name Intel Pentium D 925

Code Name Presler

Package Socket 775 LGA

Technology 65nm

Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz

Family F

Extended Family F

Model 6

Extended Model 6

Stepping 5

Revision D0

Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, EM64T

Bus Speed 199.5 MHz

Rated Bus Speed 798.1 MHz

Stock Core Speed 3000 MHz

Stock Bus Speed 200 MHz

Caches

L1 Data Cache Size 2 x 16 KBytes

L1 trace cache 2 x 12 Kuops

L2 Unified Cache Size 2 x 2048 KBytes

Core 0

Core Speed 2992.7 MHz

Multiplier x 15.0

Bus Speed 199.5 MHz

Rated Bus Speed 798.1 MHz

Thread 1

APIC ID 0

Core 1

Core Speed 2394.2 MHz

Multiplier x 12.0

Bus Speed 199.5 MHz

Rated Bus Speed 798.1 MHz

Thread 1

APIC ID 1

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#1
Posted 04/11/2012 03:17 PM   
Do you already have it or are you planning on getting a 450? I'd place your overall framerate based on what games you're trying to run. But either way, even if it's an older machine, the 450 should give you kind of boost you're looking for. Someone would probably say that most games, like Crysis 2, will at least run better with a quad. However, I've also seen someone play through Crysis 2 on a dualcore multiple times and they still had a blast.
Do you already have it or are you planning on getting a 450? I'd place your overall framerate based on what games you're trying to run. But either way, even if it's an older machine, the 450 should give you kind of boost you're looking for. Someone would probably say that most games, like Crysis 2, will at least run better with a quad. However, I've also seen someone play through Crysis 2 on a dualcore multiple times and they still had a blast.

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#2
Posted 04/11/2012 04:51 PM   
I agree with Veeshush. I disagree with the entire "bottlenecking" concept. A better card will always improve system performance, as will a better CPU. Having an old CPU is not a reason to not upgrade the card.
I agree with Veeshush. I disagree with the entire "bottlenecking" concept. A better card will always improve system performance, as will a better CPU. Having an old CPU is not a reason to not upgrade the card.

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#3
Posted 04/11/2012 04:57 PM   
thank u for that.....looking forward for gts450 :D
thank u for that.....looking forward for gts450 :D

#4
Posted 04/11/2012 05:07 PM   
The GTX 480, which was $500.00 not too long ago, is now selling in the $200.00 range. This is an incredible card and is really very close to the GTX 580. It's a bargain and an amazing card.
The GTX 480, which was $500.00 not too long ago, is now selling in the $200.00 range. This is an incredible card and is really very close to the GTX 580. It's a bargain and an amazing card.

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#5
Posted 04/11/2012 05:10 PM   
budeget is tight :D and i have made up my mind on GTS450............ i reckon it is a decent card(450)
budeget is tight :D and i have made up my mind on GTS450............ i reckon it is a decent card(450)

#6
Posted 04/11/2012 05:16 PM   
[quote name='HollywoodPCRepair' date='11 April 2012 - 12:10 PM' timestamp='1334164204' post='1394892']
The GTX 480, which was $500.00 not too long ago, is now selling in the $200.00 range.
[/quote]

I forgot to check the price drop after the 680 release, they really are dropping!

[quote name='Sid3695' date='11 April 2012 - 10:17 AM' timestamp='1334157446' post='1394848']
dont worry about the psu
520 W it is[/quote]

Remember though, you still have a 520 W PSU. That doesn't tell me what the amps are. I doubt there's much to work with on the 12v rail amp-wise, which is the power available to the card. I don't think a 450 will/should stress it, but just keep an eye on it. Just based on that a 450 would probably be as high as I'd go. I'd probably recommend you upgrade your PSU at some point just based on me assuming it's a generic one, like those found in Dells or the like. Plus the build quality isn't the greatest with those. And of course if you upgrade the PSU then the sky's the limit with what you can upgrade later on. Just something to keep in mind.
[quote name='HollywoodPCRepair' date='11 April 2012 - 12:10 PM' timestamp='1334164204' post='1394892']

The GTX 480, which was $500.00 not too long ago, is now selling in the $200.00 range.





I forgot to check the price drop after the 680 release, they really are dropping!



[quote name='Sid3695' date='11 April 2012 - 10:17 AM' timestamp='1334157446' post='1394848']

dont worry about the psu

520 W it is



Remember though, you still have a 520 W PSU. That doesn't tell me what the amps are. I doubt there's much to work with on the 12v rail amp-wise, which is the power available to the card. I don't think a 450 will/should stress it, but just keep an eye on it. Just based on that a 450 would probably be as high as I'd go. I'd probably recommend you upgrade your PSU at some point just based on me assuming it's a generic one, like those found in Dells or the like. Plus the build quality isn't the greatest with those. And of course if you upgrade the PSU then the sky's the limit with what you can upgrade later on. Just something to keep in mind.

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#7
Posted 04/11/2012 06:07 PM   
[quote name='Veeshush' date='11 April 2012 - 11:37 PM' timestamp='1334167629' post='1394937']
I forgot to check the price drop after the 680 release, they really are dropping!



Remember though, you still have a 520 W PSU. That doesn't tell me what the amps are. I doubt there's much to work with on the 12v rail amp-wise, which is the power available to the card. I don't think a 450 will/should stress it, but just keep an eye on it. Just based on that a 450 would probably be as high as I'd go. I'd probably recommend you upgrade your PSU at some point just based on me assuming it's a generic one, like those found in Dells or the like. Plus the build quality isn't the greatest with those. And of course if you upgrade the PSU then the sky's the limit with what you can upgrade later on. Just something to keep in mind.
[/quote]




Seasonic S12 520 W ( got 40 amp ) single rail
[quote name='Veeshush' date='11 April 2012 - 11:37 PM' timestamp='1334167629' post='1394937']

I forgot to check the price drop after the 680 release, they really are dropping!







Remember though, you still have a 520 W PSU. That doesn't tell me what the amps are. I doubt there's much to work with on the 12v rail amp-wise, which is the power available to the card. I don't think a 450 will/should stress it, but just keep an eye on it. Just based on that a 450 would probably be as high as I'd go. I'd probably recommend you upgrade your PSU at some point just based on me assuming it's a generic one, like those found in Dells or the like. Plus the build quality isn't the greatest with those. And of course if you upgrade the PSU then the sky's the limit with what you can upgrade later on. Just something to keep in mind.











Seasonic S12 520 W ( got 40 amp ) single rail

#8
Posted 04/12/2012 11:36 AM   
[quote name='Sid3695' date='12 April 2012 - 06:36 AM' timestamp='1334230604' post='1395261']
Seasonic S12 520 W ( got 40 amp ) single rail
[/quote]

That's a game changer! Why didn't you say so to begin with? Seasonic are among my top picks for brands. Alright, everything should be perfect then. Depending on when you get your card, stop back and post how it's working for you. Enjoy your new card!
[quote name='Sid3695' date='12 April 2012 - 06:36 AM' timestamp='1334230604' post='1395261']

Seasonic S12 520 W ( got 40 amp ) single rail





That's a game changer! Why didn't you say so to begin with? Seasonic are among my top picks for brands. Alright, everything should be perfect then. Depending on when you get your card, stop back and post how it's working for you. Enjoy your new card!

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#9
Posted 04/12/2012 12:59 PM   
:D i would like to know how much performance will bottlenecking cost?????????? with pentium D and gts450 may i expect upto 30-40 fps on medium settings for most games.....and also i would like to know how much of the graphics card capability miught be used?
:D i would like to know how much performance will bottlenecking cost?????????? with pentium D and gts450 may i expect upto 30-40 fps on medium settings for most games.....and also i would like to know how much of the graphics card capability miught be used?

#10
Posted 04/12/2012 01:40 PM   
one more thing....i checked on my case,....and after some inches is just on the side of the ram slots?? will it fit?
and on its side are the pci slots having some height
one more thing....i checked on my case,....and after some inches is just on the side of the ram slots?? will it fit?

and on its side are the pci slots having some height

#11
Posted 04/12/2012 01:51 PM   
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=br&lc=pt&dlc=pt&docname=c00864922
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=br&lc=pt&dlc=pt&docname=c00864922

#12
Posted 04/12/2012 01:55 PM   
[quote name='Sid3695' date='12 April 2012 - 08:40 AM' timestamp='1334238030' post='1395317']
:D i would like to know how much performance will bottlenecking cost?????????? with pentium D and gts450 may i expect upto 30-40 fps on medium settings for most games.....and also i would like to know how much of the graphics card capability miught be used?
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http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gts-450-review-roundup/1
Your card might even be on there^
http://www.guru3d.com/article/vga-charts-spring-2011/
Keep mind, these benchmarks are with MAX settings so the card's are stressed. If your resolution is lower, or you have settings turned down, you'll obviously get better framrates. I wouldn't expect you to get less than a 10 frame difference from those benchmarks, tops. Like HollywoodPCRepair said, you're going to get a upgrade that's going to be worth it. If you still want to hold back, know that the 600 series cards are coming out within the next few months, 640,650,670 ect. Those would be a good upgrade over the 400 series, but will cost a bit more. The things that your older CPU will struggle on are the poorly optmized console ports, GTA IV and Skyrim to name a few, that use directx9 and in general aren't as optimized as they could be (although Skyrim is a ton better than GTAIV framerate wise). HOWEVER, even my processor struggles with these games. People usually have to overclock to like 4Ghz or so to get the framerate decent.

[quote name='Sid3695' date='12 April 2012 - 08:51 AM' timestamp='1334238717' post='1395321']
one more thing....i checked on my case,....and after some inches is just on the side of the ram slots?? will it fit?
and on its side are the pci slots having some height
[/quote]

Thanks for posting a picture, I see exactly what you mean. At most you're going to lose a PCI slot underneath and it'll be a tight fit against the ram, but I'd think you'd have enough room.
[quote name='Sid3695' date='12 April 2012 - 08:40 AM' timestamp='1334238030' post='1395317']

:D i would like to know how much performance will bottlenecking cost?????????? with pentium D and gts450 may i expect upto 30-40 fps on medium settings for most games.....and also i would like to know how much of the graphics card capability miught be used?



http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gts-450-review-roundup/1

Your card might even be on there^

http://www.guru3d.com/article/vga-charts-spring-2011/

Keep mind, these benchmarks are with MAX settings so the card's are stressed. If your resolution is lower, or you have settings turned down, you'll obviously get better framrates. I wouldn't expect you to get less than a 10 frame difference from those benchmarks, tops. Like HollywoodPCRepair said, you're going to get a upgrade that's going to be worth it. If you still want to hold back, know that the 600 series cards are coming out within the next few months, 640,650,670 ect. Those would be a good upgrade over the 400 series, but will cost a bit more. The things that your older CPU will struggle on are the poorly optmized console ports, GTA IV and Skyrim to name a few, that use directx9 and in general aren't as optimized as they could be (although Skyrim is a ton better than GTAIV framerate wise). HOWEVER, even my processor struggles with these games. People usually have to overclock to like 4Ghz or so to get the framerate decent.



[quote name='Sid3695' date='12 April 2012 - 08:51 AM' timestamp='1334238717' post='1395321']

one more thing....i checked on my case,....and after some inches is just on the side of the ram slots?? will it fit?

and on its side are the pci slots having some height





Thanks for posting a picture, I see exactly what you mean. At most you're going to lose a PCI slot underneath and it'll be a tight fit against the ram, but I'd think you'd have enough room.

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#13
Posted 04/12/2012 08:35 PM   
hmmm,,,,, i get it :D
hmmm,,,,, i get it :D

#14
Posted 04/14/2012 05:17 PM   
yes it will bottleneck a lot, that gtx450 will be used at less than 50%

i had a core2 2.5ghz with a oced 4830 (8800gt 9800 250 450) i played a lot very nice but not always in 60fps, i was thinking the gpu sucked

after i changed to my phenom2 wow, the gpu was like a new one, in many games i had 2x the fps, at least 60fps was very easily achieved

so yes, i had a bottleneck

that pentium d is like a core2 at 1.5ghz
yes it will bottleneck a lot, that gtx450 will be used at less than 50%



i had a core2 2.5ghz with a oced 4830 (8800gt 9800 250 450) i played a lot very nice but not always in 60fps, i was thinking the gpu sucked



after i changed to my phenom2 wow, the gpu was like a new one, in many games i had 2x the fps, at least 60fps was very easily achieved



so yes, i had a bottleneck



that pentium d is like a core2 at 1.5ghz

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#15
Posted 04/14/2012 10:17 PM   
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