Is this a joke Nvidia? 301.24 input lag is noticeably higher than 296.10
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Cursor feels like a complete joke in accuracy compared to 296.10 and 296.10 wasn't even a low input lag driver in comparison to older ones like 186.82.
Cursor feels like a complete joke in accuracy compared to 296.10 and 296.10 wasn't even a low input lag driver in comparison to older ones like 186.82.

Motherboard: Gigabyte Z77 UD5H + 2500k

Ram: 8g (4g x 2 Samsung 30nm MV-3V4G3)

GPU: MSI 570GTX reference card - stock

PSU: SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT 650W

Sound: Creative Audigy 2 ZS PCI

HD: OCZ Agility 60g, Intel RST AHCI driver, Win7 x64

Mouse: G9x, Sensei, + more

One LCD attached, DVI mode, DPC Latency = 4

#1
Posted 04/09/2012 02:38 PM   
There is no input lag whatsoever.
There is no input lag whatsoever.

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#2
Posted 04/09/2012 03:08 PM   
I agree with meetahjhu. Check your system, aquickdeath001.
[quote name='Zibri' date='09 April 2012 - 11:35 AM' timestamp='1333989336' post='1393747']
I agree with meetahjhu. Check your system, aquickdeath001.
[/quote]

I have multiple systems, multiple mice (g9x, steelseries Xai, steelseries Sensei, Deathadder, etc) and can notice it on any system by only changing the Nvidia driver.

Some people are unable to notice 100ms input lag on Sony LCD TV's (you). Other people (me) can notice 5ms input lag difference.

I know a guy that plays Crysis 2 with a wireless, 400dpi mouse and doesn't notice input lag. Does that mean a wireless, 400 dpi mouse isn't HORRENDOUS for gaming with huge lag? No.

So please, I know what the hell I'm talking about. Not everyone can notice small differences in input lag, but I sure as hell can.
[quote name='Zibri' date='09 April 2012 - 11:35 AM' timestamp='1333989336' post='1393747']

I agree with meetahjhu. Check your system, aquickdeath001.





I have multiple systems, multiple mice (g9x, steelseries Xai, steelseries Sensei, Deathadder, etc) and can notice it on any system by only changing the Nvidia driver.



Some people are unable to notice 100ms input lag on Sony LCD TV's (you). Other people (me) can notice 5ms input lag difference.



I know a guy that plays Crysis 2 with a wireless, 400dpi mouse and doesn't notice input lag. Does that mean a wireless, 400 dpi mouse isn't HORRENDOUS for gaming with huge lag? No.



So please, I know what the hell I'm talking about. Not everyone can notice small differences in input lag, but I sure as hell can.

Motherboard: Gigabyte Z77 UD5H + 2500k

Ram: 8g (4g x 2 Samsung 30nm MV-3V4G3)

GPU: MSI 570GTX reference card - stock

PSU: SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT 650W

Sound: Creative Audigy 2 ZS PCI

HD: OCZ Agility 60g, Intel RST AHCI driver, Win7 x64

Mouse: G9x, Sensei, + more

One LCD attached, DVI mode, DPC Latency = 4

#4
Posted 04/09/2012 05:02 PM   
[quote name='aquickdeath001' date='09 April 2012 - 10:32 PM' timestamp='1333990963' post='1393760']
I have multiple systems, multiple mice (g9x, steelseries Xai, steelseries Sensei, Deathadder, etc) and can notice it on any system by only changing the Nvidia driver.

Some people are unable to notice 100ms input lag on Sony LCD TV's (you). Other people (me) can notice 5ms input lag difference.

I know a guy that plays Crysis 2 with a wireless, 400dpi mouse and doesn't notice input lag. Does that mean a wireless, 400 dpi mouse isn't HORRENDOUS for gaming with huge lag? No.

So please, I know what the hell I'm talking about. Not everyone can notice small differences in input lag, but I sure as hell can.
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Dear quickdeath, Even i can notice even 10ms input lag from mouse which isn't right. And i have 120hz monitor as a matter of fact. And there is 0 input lag. If u have Vsync enabled it should be the culprit. Vsync has input lag you need to check that out.
[quote name='aquickdeath001' date='09 April 2012 - 10:32 PM' timestamp='1333990963' post='1393760']

I have multiple systems, multiple mice (g9x, steelseries Xai, steelseries Sensei, Deathadder, etc) and can notice it on any system by only changing the Nvidia driver.



Some people are unable to notice 100ms input lag on Sony LCD TV's (you). Other people (me) can notice 5ms input lag difference.



I know a guy that plays Crysis 2 with a wireless, 400dpi mouse and doesn't notice input lag. Does that mean a wireless, 400 dpi mouse isn't HORRENDOUS for gaming with huge lag? No.



So please, I know what the hell I'm talking about. Not everyone can notice small differences in input lag, but I sure as hell can.





Dear quickdeath, Even i can notice even 10ms input lag from mouse which isn't right. And i have 120hz monitor as a matter of fact. And there is 0 input lag. If u have Vsync enabled it should be the culprit. Vsync has input lag you need to check that out.

CPU:Intel i7 920 @ 3.4ghz 1.18v 24/7, Mobo:Asus Rampage II Extreme, Memory:6GB G.skill@1600 cl7

Video:Zotac Geforce GTX 480 Sound:X-fi Titanium-Fatality-Champ with Z5500, Monitor:Asus VG236 120hz, Asus PA246

HDD:OCZ Vertex 4 256gb(soon), 3x2tb and 1tb, Case: Antec 1200 Black, PSU: Corsair HX850, OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64



A enthusiast motherboard should never have onboard sound,onboard network,onboard sata controllers and 0 PCI slots and controllers

#5
Posted 04/09/2012 05:15 PM   
Hi and welcome to NVIDIA forum, i agree with meetajhu and there no input lag issue on me either, keep in mind that Vsync and refresh rate will affect the input lag so you need to check that.
Hi and welcome to NVIDIA forum, i agree with meetajhu and there no input lag issue on me either, keep in mind that Vsync and refresh rate will affect the input lag so you need to check that.

Processor : Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800 2.93GHz (266MHz FSB x 11) @ 3.6GHz 1.288V (400MHz FSB x 9) @ Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Heatsink with Extra Fan 92CM Fan attach

Graphic Card : Inno3D GTX580 1536MB GDDR5 (772MHz Core / 1544MHz Shader / 4008MHz Memory 1.013V @ 900MHz Core / 1800MHz Shader / 4400MHz 1.088V) (BIOS Version: 70.10.17.00.01)

Mainboard : ASUS Maximus II Formula (BIOS Version: 2302) (Dual Gigabit Marvell Onboard Ethernet & Speed HDD is Disable / SATA running at AHCI via BIOS Setting)

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OS 1 : Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 (NVIDIA Driver : 295.73 WHQL)

OS 2 : Windows XP Pro SP3 (NVIDIA Driver : 295.73 WHQL)

#6
Posted 04/09/2012 05:27 PM   
[quote name='Essential716' date='09 April 2012 - 12:27 PM' timestamp='1333992433' post='1393773']
Hi and welcome to NVIDIA forum, i agree with meetajhu and there no input lag issue on me either, keep in mind that Vsync and refresh rate will affect the input lag so you need to check that.
[/quote]

I'm 31 years old, my first PC was a 386, my first GPU was a Geforce 256. I know what Vsync does, please don't insult my intelligence. I've never used Vsync in my life.

In every post I've made about Nvidia drivers input lag, there are always other people that notice it too. Then there's the slow reflex, poorly skilled people that don't.

Do you seriously think it's impossible for input lag to vary in between driver sets? That it would be some kind of irrational conspiracy for that to happen? It's pretty much easily bound to happen when Nvidia cares about nothing except winning benchmarks to sell more cards.

Just like this thread, same thing on the Overclock.net forums, I posted about it there, a bunch of other people notice it, then some random noob that runs a 100ms input lag, LCD TV monitor with wireless trackball is like "DURRRR, no lag here!": http://www.overclock.net/t/1213201/mouse-input-lag-in-windows-7
[quote name='Essential716' date='09 April 2012 - 12:27 PM' timestamp='1333992433' post='1393773']

Hi and welcome to NVIDIA forum, i agree with meetajhu and there no input lag issue on me either, keep in mind that Vsync and refresh rate will affect the input lag so you need to check that.





I'm 31 years old, my first PC was a 386, my first GPU was a Geforce 256. I know what Vsync does, please don't insult my intelligence. I've never used Vsync in my life.



In every post I've made about Nvidia drivers input lag, there are always other people that notice it too. Then there's the slow reflex, poorly skilled people that don't.



Do you seriously think it's impossible for input lag to vary in between driver sets? That it would be some kind of irrational conspiracy for that to happen? It's pretty much easily bound to happen when Nvidia cares about nothing except winning benchmarks to sell more cards.



Just like this thread, same thing on the Overclock.net forums, I posted about it there, a bunch of other people notice it, then some random noob that runs a 100ms input lag, LCD TV monitor with wireless trackball is like "DURRRR, no lag here!": http://www.overclock.net/t/1213201/mouse-input-lag-in-windows-7

Motherboard: Gigabyte Z77 UD5H + 2500k

Ram: 8g (4g x 2 Samsung 30nm MV-3V4G3)

GPU: MSI 570GTX reference card - stock

PSU: SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT 650W

Sound: Creative Audigy 2 ZS PCI

HD: OCZ Agility 60g, Intel RST AHCI driver, Win7 x64

Mouse: G9x, Sensei, + more

One LCD attached, DVI mode, DPC Latency = 4

#7
Posted 04/09/2012 10:45 PM   
use your 186.82 then as driver version go up features add to drivers are bound to add to latency , but frankly I dont get it. cause my wireless mouse works just as good and smoothly as my wire moused did. I also have vsync and have always done so cause i dont like tearing with out it. I have both a 1ms monitor and 4 ms lcd tv and the mouse feels the same on both.


there is nothing wrong with the drivers
use your 186.82 then as driver version go up features add to drivers are bound to add to latency , but frankly I dont get it. cause my wireless mouse works just as good and smoothly as my wire moused did. I also have vsync and have always done so cause i dont like tearing with out it. I have both a 1ms monitor and 4 ms lcd tv and the mouse feels the same on both.





there is nothing wrong with the drivers

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#8
Posted 04/09/2012 11:20 PM   
Never see input-lag with vsync and triple buffering enabled
"I've never used Vsync in my life." are you insulting yourself? it bad very bad
Never see input-lag with vsync and triple buffering enabled

"I've never used Vsync in my life." are you insulting yourself? it bad very bad

#9
Posted 04/09/2012 11:46 PM   
What monitor do you have and what mouse? also let me know what driver is your ICH10 Family USB host controller driver.
What monitor do you have and what mouse? also let me know what driver is your ICH10 Family USB host controller driver.

CPU:Intel i7 920 @ 3.4ghz 1.18v 24/7, Mobo:Asus Rampage II Extreme, Memory:6GB G.skill@1600 cl7

Video:Zotac Geforce GTX 480 Sound:X-fi Titanium-Fatality-Champ with Z5500, Monitor:Asus VG236 120hz, Asus PA246

HDD:OCZ Vertex 4 256gb(soon), 3x2tb and 1tb, Case: Antec 1200 Black, PSU: Corsair HX850, OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64



A enthusiast motherboard should never have onboard sound,onboard network,onboard sata controllers and 0 PCI slots and controllers

#10
Posted 04/10/2012 12:24 AM   
[quote name='tsunami2311' date='09 April 2012 - 06:20 PM' timestamp='1334013656' post='1393935']
cause my wireless mouse works just as good and smoothly as my wire moused did. I also have vsync and have always done so cause i dont like tearing with out it.

there is nothing wrong with the drivers
[/quote]

Seriously man, I hope this post was a joke. You use a wireless mouse with vsync turned on? You wouldn't know if the drivers had 1000ms input lag like that. I've grown up playing stuff like Quake 3 and Counterstrike using *CRT MONITORS* with 0 input lag, so I can notice any form of input lag no matter how small it is and can easily tell when it changes from changing Nvidia drivers.

[quote name='meetajhu' date='09 April 2012 - 07:24 PM' timestamp='1334017465' post='1393962']
What monitor do you have and what mouse? also let me know what driver is your ICH10 Family USB host controller driver.
[/quote]

I have multiple PC's. Got one PC with a Samsung 245B, which has 7.5ms input lag, and another with a Samsung P2770H (no, it's not the one with a TV tuner that has a billion input lag).

The mice I already listed. I'm currently using a Sensei without any driver installed, because it doesn't need one, I notice the same stuff happen when using a G9x with driver installed though.
[quote name='tsunami2311' date='09 April 2012 - 06:20 PM' timestamp='1334013656' post='1393935']

cause my wireless mouse works just as good and smoothly as my wire moused did. I also have vsync and have always done so cause i dont like tearing with out it.



there is nothing wrong with the drivers





Seriously man, I hope this post was a joke. You use a wireless mouse with vsync turned on? You wouldn't know if the drivers had 1000ms input lag like that. I've grown up playing stuff like Quake 3 and Counterstrike using *CRT MONITORS* with 0 input lag, so I can notice any form of input lag no matter how small it is and can easily tell when it changes from changing Nvidia drivers.



[quote name='meetajhu' date='09 April 2012 - 07:24 PM' timestamp='1334017465' post='1393962']

What monitor do you have and what mouse? also let me know what driver is your ICH10 Family USB host controller driver.





I have multiple PC's. Got one PC with a Samsung 245B, which has 7.5ms input lag, and another with a Samsung P2770H (no, it's not the one with a TV tuner that has a billion input lag).



The mice I already listed. I'm currently using a Sensei without any driver installed, because it doesn't need one, I notice the same stuff happen when using a G9x with driver installed though.

Motherboard: Gigabyte Z77 UD5H + 2500k

Ram: 8g (4g x 2 Samsung 30nm MV-3V4G3)

GPU: MSI 570GTX reference card - stock

PSU: SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT 650W

Sound: Creative Audigy 2 ZS PCI

HD: OCZ Agility 60g, Intel RST AHCI driver, Win7 x64

Mouse: G9x, Sensei, + more

One LCD attached, DVI mode, DPC Latency = 4

#11
Posted 04/10/2012 01:49 AM   
[quote name='aquickdeath001' date='10 April 2012 - 07:19 AM' timestamp='1334022548' post='1393999']
Seriously man, I hope this post was a joke. You use a wireless mouse with vsync turned on? You wouldn't know if the drivers had 1000ms input lag like that. I've grown up playing stuff like Quake 3 and Counterstrike using *CRT MONITORS* with 0 input lag, so I can notice any form of input lag no matter how small it is and can easily tell when it changes from changing Nvidia drivers.



I have multiple PC's. Got one PC with a Samsung 245B, which has 7.5ms input lag, and another with a Samsung P2770H (no, it's not the one with a TV tuner that has a billion input lag).

The mice I already listed. I'm currently using a Sensei without any driver installed, because it doesn't need one, I notice the same stuff happen when using a G9x with driver installed though.
[/quote]

Mouse's don't have drivers as of Windows Vista/7. What i asked you is to make sure you have installed Intel usb drivers in your device manager manually instead of running Microsoft's usb driver for your motherboard.
[quote name='aquickdeath001' date='10 April 2012 - 07:19 AM' timestamp='1334022548' post='1393999']

Seriously man, I hope this post was a joke. You use a wireless mouse with vsync turned on? You wouldn't know if the drivers had 1000ms input lag like that. I've grown up playing stuff like Quake 3 and Counterstrike using *CRT MONITORS* with 0 input lag, so I can notice any form of input lag no matter how small it is and can easily tell when it changes from changing Nvidia drivers.







I have multiple PC's. Got one PC with a Samsung 245B, which has 7.5ms input lag, and another with a Samsung P2770H (no, it's not the one with a TV tuner that has a billion input lag).



The mice I already listed. I'm currently using a Sensei without any driver installed, because it doesn't need one, I notice the same stuff happen when using a G9x with driver installed though.





Mouse's don't have drivers as of Windows Vista/7. What i asked you is to make sure you have installed Intel usb drivers in your device manager manually instead of running Microsoft's usb driver for your motherboard.

CPU:Intel i7 920 @ 3.4ghz 1.18v 24/7, Mobo:Asus Rampage II Extreme, Memory:6GB G.skill@1600 cl7

Video:Zotac Geforce GTX 480 Sound:X-fi Titanium-Fatality-Champ with Z5500, Monitor:Asus VG236 120hz, Asus PA246

HDD:OCZ Vertex 4 256gb(soon), 3x2tb and 1tb, Case: Antec 1200 Black, PSU: Corsair HX850, OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64



A enthusiast motherboard should never have onboard sound,onboard network,onboard sata controllers and 0 PCI slots and controllers

#12
Posted 04/10/2012 10:45 PM   
[quote name='aquickdeath001' date='09 April 2012 - 09:49 PM' timestamp='1334022548' post='1393999']
Seriously man, I hope this post was a joke. You use a wireless mouse with vsync turned on? You wouldn't know if the drivers had 1000ms input lag like that. I've grown up playing stuff like Quake 3 and Counterstrike using *CRT MONITORS* with 0 input lag, so I can notice any form of input lag no matter how small it is and can easily tell when it changes from changing Nvidia drivers.



I have multiple PC's. Got one PC with a Samsung 245B, which has 7.5ms input lag, and another with a Samsung P2770H (no, it's not the one with a TV tuner that has a billion input lag).

The mice I already listed. I'm currently using a Sensei without any driver installed, because it doesn't need one, I notice the same stuff happen when using a G9x with driver installed though.
[/quote]

Please i love crt over any of these lcd monitors and I see no mouse lag on them they work just as good as the did and do with my my old crt be it wireless or wired. stop playing with your mouse on low dpi setting and stop playing with the max pre render settings. last time i had any sort of mouse lag in any game including fps was 5+ years ago when cpu's and gpu just sucked.
[quote name='aquickdeath001' date='09 April 2012 - 09:49 PM' timestamp='1334022548' post='1393999']

Seriously man, I hope this post was a joke. You use a wireless mouse with vsync turned on? You wouldn't know if the drivers had 1000ms input lag like that. I've grown up playing stuff like Quake 3 and Counterstrike using *CRT MONITORS* with 0 input lag, so I can notice any form of input lag no matter how small it is and can easily tell when it changes from changing Nvidia drivers.







I have multiple PC's. Got one PC with a Samsung 245B, which has 7.5ms input lag, and another with a Samsung P2770H (no, it's not the one with a TV tuner that has a billion input lag).



The mice I already listed. I'm currently using a Sensei without any driver installed, because it doesn't need one, I notice the same stuff happen when using a G9x with driver installed though.





Please i love crt over any of these lcd monitors and I see no mouse lag on them they work just as good as the did and do with my my old crt be it wireless or wired. stop playing with your mouse on low dpi setting and stop playing with the max pre render settings. last time i had any sort of mouse lag in any game including fps was 5+ years ago when cpu's and gpu just sucked.

Evga x58 SLI LE
i7 920 Stock
6gb @ 1600mhz
Evga 660GTX SIG2 FTW - 331.82
Onboard Realtek Sound
Win 7 64bit
Asus VS248h
Antec 750w Truepower New

#13
Posted 04/11/2012 06:33 AM   
I've used this driver on an XP machine with an old Compaq analog ball mouse and there isnt' any significant input mouse lag.
I've used this driver on an XP machine with an old Compaq analog ball mouse and there isnt' any significant input mouse lag.

#14
Posted 04/11/2012 11:47 AM   
[quote name='aquickdeath001' date='09 April 2012 - 05:38 PM' timestamp='1333982306' post='1393697']
Cursor feels like a complete joke in accuracy compared to 296.10 and 296.10 wasn't even a low input lag driver in comparison to older ones like 186.82.
[/quote]

No joke at all there is no noticeable input lag here.
Drivers run great with my system so far

Probably some other driver in your PC is causing this issue and is making a conflict with the newest Nvidia drivers
[quote name='aquickdeath001' date='09 April 2012 - 05:38 PM' timestamp='1333982306' post='1393697']

Cursor feels like a complete joke in accuracy compared to 296.10 and 296.10 wasn't even a low input lag driver in comparison to older ones like 186.82.





No joke at all there is no noticeable input lag here.

Drivers run great with my system so far



Probably some other driver in your PC is causing this issue and is making a conflict with the newest Nvidia drivers

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#15
Posted 04/11/2012 12:04 PM   
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