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[size="2"][i]By Heedless_onE[/i][/size][/b] [/font]
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[font="Verdana"][size="2"] For those that don’t know, I am addicted, and always interested in new input devices. I have owned more mice and keyboards then I can count. I have also taken a strong interest in Esports as of late (Starcraft II) and with input device manufacturers finding new avenues of sales through team marketing, somewhat like Nascar as opposed to traditional marketing adds and what not, I have found myself wanting to check out Steelseries’ offerings. Having held a long time interest in almost exclusively Razer products, I felt I wanted to see if the Grass was greener. So, the other day, after work I bussed down to the computer store and picked up a Sensei, Steelseries’ new professional grade mouse. I decided I haven’t written anything or taken large part in the community for a while so it’d be fun to do a little write up about my adventure in Input devices. [/size]

[/font][font="Verdana"] The review will be done in a format that looks at some of the best mice on offer for all three grades of mice: Home Office, High End Gaming/Enthusiast, and Professional/Esport, and at the end, we’ll see which one I stick with.[/font]


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[size="2"] The Logitech Performance MX was the first mouse I had used for gaming and general use that was high end and cost big bucks. This is the successor to the infamous MX Revolution that featured a side scroll wheel, weighted standard scroll wheel and a 2.4Ghz wireless connection. The Performance MX sports the same weighted scroll wheel, now with the option of a click selector allowing you to choose from an incremental feel, and a free moving scroll. It has lost the side scroll wheel from the Revolution, but instead it features a “Windows” button. This button, when pressed, will bring up an organized view of all windows on your desktop allowing you to quickly select which new window you want to focus on. The Performance MX uses a Darkfield laser, invented by Logitech which allows it to track on any surface, even glass. In practice, this works. The mouse tracks on just about any surface with near perfect accuracy; even my uneven laptop keyboard or bed sheets.[/size][font="Verdana"]
Ergonomically, the Performance MX is a great feel. A rough plastic exterior hood mounted on rubberized side grips and plastic accents. though, it's rather heavy. In fact, it’s probably the heaviest mouse I’ve ever held or used. At the time I used it, it was mostly used for playing games like Counter-Strike Source, Starcraft Brood War, and a myriad of shooters World War II based or otherwise. The mouse offered a unique weighted, accurate feel in shooters, but was fairly taxing in games that required lots of micro actions like an RTS. The switches used differ from the Revolution in that they are sharper, and much shallower with a very high actuation distance Logitech seems to now prefer in their mice.

[size="2"] It should also be mentioned, that for a wireless mouse, the battery life is amazing. Off a single charge, you can go for almost an entire week and that’s from someone who is rarely away from his computers unless at work, or out with friends/shopping etc. [/size][/font]




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[size="2"][font="Arial"][b]Brief: [/b][/font][font="Verdana"][i]The Performance MX office and home mouse offered a great feel for shooters, but nothing else. I have continued using the mouse for my laptop and it’s a great high quality home mouse.[/i][/font][/size]
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[size="2"] I’ve had a strange history with the Razer Mamba. I originally bought one a long time ago when it was first released. I did not care for the low slung shape and ergonomics and promptly sold it and moved on to the Microsoft Sidewinder. At some point later I was looking for a new mouse again and I decided to give it another shot after many forums were declaring it the best mouse available, if you were willing to pay the $129.99 for it. I ended up loving it and wasn’t quite sure why I didn’t like it in the first time. The Razer Mamba uses a lumpy, non free scrolling scroll wheel, and tactile switches in the right and left button that, though shallow, have a low actuation distance, with very little resistance. The mouse is driven by a Phillips Twin-Eye laser which is both loved and hated at the same time.This version also comes equipped with an auxiliary optical sensor for measuring lift of distance and surface calibration. The Mamba is a wireless unit, however, the battery life is so poor, usually only about 4 hours though it’s advertised for more, that I used it as a wired mouse as it features data over cable. It should be noted though, that the feel in wireless mode is MUCH swifter and unencumbered. You don’t realize how much extra momentum is lost from cable drag, even when it’s held by an anchor. [/size][font="Verdana"]

Physically the entire top portion of the mouse is coated with anti-sweat vinyl rubber. Accents are slick plastic with sections on the lower body for finger placement on rubber grips. The mouse is fast and responsive due to the Phillips Twin-Eye, the most performant sensor typically equipped on gaming mice, however, it does come with quirks. The laser, also used in the Saitek R.A.T. series is alleged to have skipping problems in which it can stall, or reappear in a slightly offset location. It is also verified to jump to the lower right when lifted off a surface, but most users won’t notice this unless they use very low DPS or lift the mouse very often. The unit uses shallow, tactile switches with a low actuation distance as with all Razer mice (DeathAdder, Imperator, Naga etc) These are great for gaming, mostly shooters, and suffice for RTS. They, unfortunately have a tendency to click very fast, and thus, will sometimes not register the second click. This can be irritating but most people could probably live with it; especially if you’re not as particular about input as I am.[/font]

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[size="2"][b][font="Verdana"]Brief:[/font][/b][b] [/b][font="Verdana"]The Razer Mamba 2012 is light years ahead of the Performance MX and is a justifiable “gaming mouse”, however, for the $129.99 price tag, comes with a few too many quirks. I've been using this mouse and it's previous version for over a year, and it's fantastic, however...[/font][/size]



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[size="2"] I’m going to be honest. Having been a Razer fan, I was really expecting to not like this mouse. The ambiguous shape, slick metallic hood, and for the unaware, Razer and Steelseries have a bitter rivalry. This is especially true in the E-sports scene as they are two major sponsors of players and player teams and well as make up most their marketing by branding tournaments and jersey’s as well as adorning players and casters with their mice. The Major League Gaming tournament casting station use one red accented DeathAdder and a blue accented DeathAdder to coincide with their logo...[/size]

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[size="2"] In any case, some of you are probably wondering what’s so special about an E-Sports geared mouse. This product uses extremely tactile third party switches from Omron, the “Steelseries Engine” which is a high end laser produced by Avago capable of 5200 DPI and paired with an ARM 32bit processor can double the DPI to stupid levels that no one will ever use. The unit also comes with a few other smaller features such as the colour scheme can be changed (The Razer Mamba can also do this) and the LCD screen on the bottom can be customized to say whatever you want. It can even hold pixel art if you have the time to draw it in SteelSeries’ suite. The ARM processor also calculate movement inside the mouse instead of offloading that work to your processor. [/size]

This is where things get interesting. After spending a few days with the mouse, using it 24/7, I can safely it is much superior to the other two mice. Omron switches in M1, and M2 are very tactile and allow for precise double clicks and the Avago laser is extremely precise and highly accurate. It lacks the “floating” computed feel of the Philips Twin-Eye, as if it had to think before each action, and delivers a highly crisp and clean feel to the mouse motions. Even in desktop tasks, I no longer find myself missing task bars or “close” buttons. There has been some speculation that the Avago actually takes a performance hit when either using it on a black surface, using it on a cloth surface, and not using it at close to it’s manufactured DPI (5200-5700) all of which I’m currently doing and haven’t experienced any negative performances in relation to the other two mice. The two downsides to the Sensei are the slick metalled roof SteelSeries has sought to use for the palm grip which sweats up my hand, and the ambidextrous buttons on the right side interfere with my third finger placement. Smartly, SteelSeries has set the 6 and 7 button as “Page Up” and “Page Down” so having your finger oddly placed on the otherwise useless buttons doesn’t actually feel that useless in desktop mode, and can be set to something useful in game, like a secondary gun function, or “Drop Ammo/Health” in Battlefield 3. Luckily, Steelseries has announced a new Sensei with rubber vinyl palm grips, but lacks the ARM processor and colour customization.


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[/b][/size][/font][font="Verdana"][b][size="2"]Brief: [/size][/b][i][size="2"]The Steelseries Sensei is legitimately better then the competition, and at the lower price point of $89.99 will no doubt be a much better investment then the Mamba, though some still may prefer the even cheaper DeathAdder Black at $59.99 molded for right hand use. [/size]

[size="2"]The Steelseries Sensei will be staying on my tech desk :) I'll be buying a Steelseries RAW edition and if the performance holds up, I'll be selling the Sensei. I loves me my rubber grips.[/size][/i][/font]
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[font="Verdana"][size="2"]PS. Why does this forum ignore indents...it's annoying as balls.[/size][/font]
Nvidia Forums Input Device Show-Down

By Heedless_onE






For those that don’t know, I am addicted, and always interested in new input devices. I have owned more mice and keyboards then I can count. I have also taken a strong interest in Esports as of late (Starcraft II) and with input device manufacturers finding new avenues of sales through team marketing, somewhat like Nascar as opposed to traditional marketing adds and what not, I have found myself wanting to check out Steelseries’ offerings. Having held a long time interest in almost exclusively Razer products, I felt I wanted to see if the Grass was greener. So, the other day, after work I bussed down to the computer store and picked up a Sensei, Steelseries’ new professional grade mouse. I decided I haven’t written anything or taken large part in the community for a while so it’d be fun to do a little write up about my adventure in Input devices.



The review will be done in a format that looks at some of the best mice on offer for all three grades of mice: Home Office, High End Gaming/Enthusiast, and Professional/Esport, and at the end, we’ll see which one I stick with.





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The Logitech Performance MX was the first mouse I had used for gaming and general use that was high end and cost big bucks. This is the successor to the infamous MX Revolution that featured a side scroll wheel, weighted standard scroll wheel and a 2.4Ghz wireless connection. The Performance MX sports the same weighted scroll wheel, now with the option of a click selector allowing you to choose from an incremental feel, and a free moving scroll. It has lost the side scroll wheel from the Revolution, but instead it features a “Windows” button. This button, when pressed, will bring up an organized view of all windows on your desktop allowing you to quickly select which new window you want to focus on. The Performance MX uses a Darkfield laser, invented by Logitech which allows it to track on any surface, even glass. In practice, this works. The mouse tracks on just about any surface with near perfect accuracy; even my uneven laptop keyboard or bed sheets.

Ergonomically, the Performance MX is a great feel. A rough plastic exterior hood mounted on rubberized side grips and plastic accents. though, it's rather heavy. In fact, it’s probably the heaviest mouse I’ve ever held or used. At the time I used it, it was mostly used for playing games like Counter-Strike Source, Starcraft Brood War, and a myriad of shooters World War II based or otherwise. The mouse offered a unique weighted, accurate feel in shooters, but was fairly taxing in games that required lots of micro actions like an RTS. The switches used differ from the Revolution in that they are sharper, and much shallower with a very high actuation distance Logitech seems to now prefer in their mice.



It should also be mentioned, that for a wireless mouse, the battery life is amazing. Off a single charge, you can go for almost an entire week and that’s from someone who is rarely away from his computers unless at work, or out with friends/shopping etc.









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Brief: The Performance MX office and home mouse offered a great feel for shooters, but nothing else. I have continued using the mouse for my laptop and it’s a great high quality home mouse.







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I’ve had a strange history with the Razer Mamba. I originally bought one a long time ago when it was first released. I did not care for the low slung shape and ergonomics and promptly sold it and moved on to the Microsoft Sidewinder. At some point later I was looking for a new mouse again and I decided to give it another shot after many forums were declaring it the best mouse available, if you were willing to pay the $129.99 for it. I ended up loving it and wasn’t quite sure why I didn’t like it in the first time. The Razer Mamba uses a lumpy, non free scrolling scroll wheel, and tactile switches in the right and left button that, though shallow, have a low actuation distance, with very little resistance. The mouse is driven by a Phillips Twin-Eye laser which is both loved and hated at the same time.This version also comes equipped with an auxiliary optical sensor for measuring lift of distance and surface calibration. The Mamba is a wireless unit, however, the battery life is so poor, usually only about 4 hours though it’s advertised for more, that I used it as a wired mouse as it features data over cable. It should be noted though, that the feel in wireless mode is MUCH swifter and unencumbered. You don’t realize how much extra momentum is lost from cable drag, even when it’s held by an anchor.



Physically the entire top portion of the mouse is coated with anti-sweat vinyl rubber. Accents are slick plastic with sections on the lower body for finger placement on rubber grips. The mouse is fast and responsive due to the Phillips Twin-Eye, the most performant sensor typically equipped on gaming mice, however, it does come with quirks. The laser, also used in the Saitek R.A.T. series is alleged to have skipping problems in which it can stall, or reappear in a slightly offset location. It is also verified to jump to the lower right when lifted off a surface, but most users won’t notice this unless they use very low DPS or lift the mouse very often. The unit uses shallow, tactile switches with a low actuation distance as with all Razer mice (DeathAdder, Imperator, Naga etc) These are great for gaming, mostly shooters, and suffice for RTS. They, unfortunately have a tendency to click very fast, and thus, will sometimes not register the second click. This can be irritating but most people could probably live with it; especially if you’re not as particular about input as I am.



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Brief: The Razer Mamba 2012 is light years ahead of the Performance MX and is a justifiable “gaming mouse”, however, for the $129.99 price tag, comes with a few too many quirks. I've been using this mouse and it's previous version for over a year, and it's fantastic, however...







Image



I’m going to be honest. Having been a Razer fan, I was really expecting to not like this mouse. The ambiguous shape, slick metallic hood, and for the unaware, Razer and Steelseries have a bitter rivalry. This is especially true in the E-sports scene as they are two major sponsors of players and player teams and well as make up most their marketing by branding tournaments and jersey’s as well as adorning players and casters with their mice. The Major League Gaming tournament casting station use one red accented DeathAdder and a blue accented DeathAdder to coincide with their logo...



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In any case, some of you are probably wondering what’s so special about an E-Sports geared mouse. This product uses extremely tactile third party switches from Omron, the “Steelseries Engine” which is a high end laser produced by Avago capable of 5200 DPI and paired with an ARM 32bit processor can double the DPI to stupid levels that no one will ever use. The unit also comes with a few other smaller features such as the colour scheme can be changed (The Razer Mamba can also do this) and the LCD screen on the bottom can be customized to say whatever you want. It can even hold pixel art if you have the time to draw it in SteelSeries’ suite. The ARM processor also calculate movement inside the mouse instead of offloading that work to your processor.



This is where things get interesting. After spending a few days with the mouse, using it 24/7, I can safely it is much superior to the other two mice. Omron switches in M1, and M2 are very tactile and allow for precise double clicks and the Avago laser is extremely precise and highly accurate. It lacks the “floating” computed feel of the Philips Twin-Eye, as if it had to think before each action, and delivers a highly crisp and clean feel to the mouse motions. Even in desktop tasks, I no longer find myself missing task bars or “close” buttons. There has been some speculation that the Avago actually takes a performance hit when either using it on a black surface, using it on a cloth surface, and not using it at close to it’s manufactured DPI (5200-5700) all of which I’m currently doing and haven’t experienced any negative performances in relation to the other two mice. The two downsides to the Sensei are the slick metalled roof SteelSeries has sought to use for the palm grip which sweats up my hand, and the ambidextrous buttons on the right side interfere with my third finger placement. Smartly, SteelSeries has set the 6 and 7 button as “Page Up” and “Page Down” so having your finger oddly placed on the otherwise useless buttons doesn’t actually feel that useless in desktop mode, and can be set to something useful in game, like a secondary gun function, or “Drop Ammo/Health” in Battlefield 3. Luckily, Steelseries has announced a new Sensei with rubber vinyl palm grips, but lacks the ARM processor and colour customization.





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Brief: The Steelseries Sensei is legitimately better then the competition, and at the lower price point of $89.99 will no doubt be a much better investment then the Mamba, though some still may prefer the even cheaper DeathAdder Black at $59.99 molded for right hand use.



The Steelseries Sensei will be staying on my tech desk :) I'll be buying a Steelseries RAW edition and if the performance holds up, I'll be selling the Sensei. I loves me my rubber grips.






PS. Why does this forum ignore indents...it's annoying as balls.
Nice write up Heedless, good review of the mice......almost like your looking for a job as a pro reviewer. Me wants one now, also a dictionary to look up some of those big words you used lol



These are my fav kinds of post to read /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />
Nice write up Heedless, good review of the mice......almost like your looking for a job as a pro reviewer. Me wants one now, also a dictionary to look up some of those big words you used lol







These are my fav kinds of post to read /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />
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Posted 03/07/2012 04:20 AM   
[quote name='cravinmild' date='06 March 2012 - 11:20 PM' timestamp='1331094019' post='1379672']
Nice write up Heedless, good review of the mice......almost like your looking for a job as a pro reviewer. Me wants one now, also a dictionary to look up some of those big words you used lol



These are my fav kinds of post to read /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />
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Lol, thanks Cravey. Pro-reviewer would be nice. Emperor of mankind would be nicer. And i'm sure i have enough spelling mistakes to make up for the big words. Didn't you just pick up a R.A.T.. How you like it?



[color="#ff0000"]Edit: I just corrected, like, 20. I'm sure it makes much more sense now[/color]
[quote name='cravinmild' date='06 March 2012 - 11:20 PM' timestamp='1331094019' post='1379672']

Nice write up Heedless, good review of the mice......almost like your looking for a job as a pro reviewer. Me wants one now, also a dictionary to look up some of those big words you used lol







These are my fav kinds of post to read /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />





Lol, thanks Cravey. Pro-reviewer would be nice. Emperor of mankind would be nicer. And i'm sure i have enough spelling mistakes to make up for the big words. Didn't you just pick up a R.A.T.. How you like it?







Edit: I just corrected, like, 20. I'm sure it makes much more sense now
I did pick one up but returned it today. LOVED IT. Theres a newer version out now and i have one on order.
I did pick one up but returned it today. LOVED IT. Theres a newer version out now and i have one on order.
#4
Posted 03/07/2012 05:23 AM   
[quote name='cravinmild' date='07 March 2012 - 12:23 AM' timestamp='1331097787' post='1379696']
I did pick one up but returned it today. LOVED IT. Theres a newer version out now and i have one on order.
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The white one?
[quote name='cravinmild' date='07 March 2012 - 12:23 AM' timestamp='1331097787' post='1379696']

I did pick one up but returned it today. LOVED IT. Theres a newer version out now and i have one on order.





The white one?
I believe he's referring to the MMO one. I myself have taken an interest in it but I have to get some use out of the Naga I just got 2 weeks ago before I can justify buying the R.A.T. MMO. /blarg.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':/' />
I believe he's referring to the MMO one. I myself have taken an interest in it but I have to get some use out of the Naga I just got 2 weeks ago before I can justify buying the R.A.T. MMO. /blarg.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':/' />

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#6
Posted 03/07/2012 07:11 AM   
No a mmo version. RAT MMO7

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcnyZrFAzgo&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcnyZrFAzgo&feature=related[/url]

God i get .... "excited" every time i look at this vid
No a mmo version. RAT MMO7







God i get .... "excited" every time i look at this vid
#7
Posted 03/07/2012 07:14 AM   
[quote name='Mourning Star' date='07 March 2012 - 02:11 AM' timestamp='1331104262' post='1379712']
I believe he's referring to the MMO one. I myself have taken an interest in it but I have to get some use out of the Naga I just got 2 weeks ago before I can justify buying the R.A.T. MMO. /blarg.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':/' />
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Ouch. I know the feeling. I'll probably be selling the Sensei i just got for the RAW version.
[quote name='Mourning Star' date='07 March 2012 - 02:11 AM' timestamp='1331104262' post='1379712']

I believe he's referring to the MMO one. I myself have taken an interest in it but I have to get some use out of the Naga I just got 2 weeks ago before I can justify buying the R.A.T. MMO. /blarg.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':/' />





Ouch. I know the feeling. I'll probably be selling the Sensei i just got for the RAW version.
Great stuff Heedless [img]http://forums.nvidia.com/public/style_emoticons/default/w00twave.gif[/img] two thumbs up [img]http://forums.nvidia.com/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif[/img] YEAH!
Great stuff Heedless Image two thumbs up Image YEAH!

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#9
Posted 03/07/2012 01:50 PM   
I found the Sensei to be far better than anything I have used before,

Thanks for the review Heed'
I found the Sensei to be far better than anything I have used before,



Thanks for the review Heed'

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#10
Posted 03/07/2012 11:04 PM   
[quote name='fmsam' date='07 March 2012 - 06:04 PM' timestamp='1331161457' post='1379954']
I found the Sensei to be far better than anything I have used before,

Thanks for the review Heed'
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Interesting...still says you're on the G9 in your sig. What are you trying to pull! lol, but yea, as well with me. I just really wish it didn't have a slick metallic hood. Hopefully the RAW version's performance will be perfectly identical, but i'm afraid that 32bit ARM processor has a lot to do with the "superior to everything" feel...


[quote name='fmsam' date='07 March 2012 - 06:04 PM' timestamp='1331161457' post='1379954']

I found the Sensei to be far better than anything I have used before,



Thanks for the review Heed'





Interesting...still says you're on the G9 in your sig. What are you trying to pull! lol, but yea, as well with me. I just really wish it didn't have a slick metallic hood. Hopefully the RAW version's performance will be perfectly identical, but i'm afraid that 32bit ARM processor has a lot to do with the "superior to everything" feel...




Wonder if it would be possable to swap the internals of mice. I like the idea of having a processor in my mouse but i like the rat style. Too bad both are so expensive, modding seems pretty risking cost wise.
Wonder if it would be possable to swap the internals of mice. I like the idea of having a processor in my mouse but i like the rat style. Too bad both are so expensive, modding seems pretty risking cost wise.
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Posted 03/08/2012 02:09 AM   
[quote name='cravinmild' date='07 March 2012 - 09:09 PM' timestamp='1331172540' post='1380001']
Wonder if it would be possable to swap the internals of mice. I like the idea of having a processor in my mouse but i like the rat style. Too bad both are so expensive, modding seems pretty risking cost wise.
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You would have to be an engineer to make it work again. You could no doubt switch the internals of identical mice, like switching DeathAdders to get the different lasers, or Sensei's to get the ARM processor. But switching a R.A.T with pretty much anything is probably close to impossible without electrical engineer equipment. Like those dudes that cut up graphics cards and use pieces to install extra power phases on graphics cards for extreme 24/7 overclocking.
[quote name='cravinmild' date='07 March 2012 - 09:09 PM' timestamp='1331172540' post='1380001']

Wonder if it would be possable to swap the internals of mice. I like the idea of having a processor in my mouse but i like the rat style. Too bad both are so expensive, modding seems pretty risking cost wise.





You would have to be an engineer to make it work again. You could no doubt switch the internals of identical mice, like switching DeathAdders to get the different lasers, or Sensei's to get the ARM processor. But switching a R.A.T with pretty much anything is probably close to impossible without electrical engineer equipment. Like those dudes that cut up graphics cards and use pieces to install extra power phases on graphics cards for extreme 24/7 overclocking.
How does the weight feel on the Sensei? on the lighter side?

I used a Deathadder in the past, but I couldn't get use to the weight of it. It felt like a brick in my hand.
How does the weight feel on the Sensei? on the lighter side?



I used a Deathadder in the past, but I couldn't get use to the weight of it. It felt like a brick in my hand.

#14
Posted 03/08/2012 03:48 AM   
[quote name='jrsyeric' date='07 March 2012 - 10:48 PM' timestamp='1331178532' post='1380046']
How does the weight feel on the Sensei? on the lighter side?

I used a Deathadder in the past, but I couldn't get use to the weight of it. It felt like a brick in my hand.
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It's about the same as the Mamba without a battery, so i'd assume similar to a DeathAdder. I find it strange that you found the DeathAdder heavy...it's a fairly light mouse as far as gaming mice go.

[color="#ff0000"]Edit: Looked it up. The Sensei is 102 Grams. The DeathAdder is 148. Whether you feel 46 grams of weight difference is subjective i suppose. Keep in mind that Razer mice are specifically right handed and thus the muscles you use to push your mouse might be stronger on an ambiguous mouse like a Sensei. 46 grams is actually a lot, but i really didn't notice a difference....:S[/color]
[quote name='jrsyeric' date='07 March 2012 - 10:48 PM' timestamp='1331178532' post='1380046']

How does the weight feel on the Sensei? on the lighter side?



I used a Deathadder in the past, but I couldn't get use to the weight of it. It felt like a brick in my hand.





It's about the same as the Mamba without a battery, so i'd assume similar to a DeathAdder. I find it strange that you found the DeathAdder heavy...it's a fairly light mouse as far as gaming mice go.



Edit: Looked it up. The Sensei is 102 Grams. The DeathAdder is 148. Whether you feel 46 grams of weight difference is subjective i suppose. Keep in mind that Razer mice are specifically right handed and thus the muscles you use to push your mouse might be stronger on an ambiguous mouse like a Sensei. 46 grams is actually a lot, but i really didn't notice a difference....:S
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