Leading Memory Makers Show DDR4 Prototypes at ISSCC.
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[font="Arial"][left]Hynix's DDR4 device works at 2400MHz (2400Mb/s) and operates at a low voltage of 1.2V and processes up to 19.2GB/s of data per second with a 64-bit I/O.[/left][/font]

[font="Arial"][left]At present it is expected that DDR4 will be massively adopted by mid-2014, but manufacturers will likely start volume manufacturing of the next-gen DRAM sometimes in 2013.[/left][/font]
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Hynix's DDR4 device works at 2400MHz (2400Mb/s) and operates at a low voltage of 1.2V and processes up to 19.2GB/s of data per second with a 64-bit I/O.




At present it is expected that DDR4 will be massively adopted by mid-2014, but manufacturers will likely start volume manufacturing of the next-gen DRAM sometimes in 2013.


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#1
Posted 02/25/2012 06:39 AM   
So we're actually gonna have DDR4 and not jump to DDR5 like graphics cards did from 3-to-5 eh? Neato.
So we're actually gonna have DDR4 and not jump to DDR5 like graphics cards did from 3-to-5 eh? Neato.



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#2
Posted 02/25/2012 10:30 AM   
W00T, then I'll be upgrading platform in 2014 :D
W00T, then I'll be upgrading platform in 2014 :D

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#3
Posted 02/25/2012 11:55 AM   
[quote name='Honey Badger' date='25 February 2012 - 08:30 PM' timestamp='1330165832' post='1374841']
So we're actually gonna have DDR4 and not jump to DDR5 like graphics cards did from 3-to-5 eh? Neato.
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Only Nvidia skipped GDDR4, ATI used GDDR4 memory in an entire range of video cards.
[quote name='Honey Badger' date='25 February 2012 - 08:30 PM' timestamp='1330165832' post='1374841']

So we're actually gonna have DDR4 and not jump to DDR5 like graphics cards did from 3-to-5 eh? Neato.



Only Nvidia skipped GDDR4, ATI used GDDR4 memory in an entire range of video cards.

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#4
Posted 02/25/2012 09:32 PM   
There is a theoretical explanation for that jump from 3 to 5... but that'd just be speculation as I cannot be bothered to research /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

So, if Intel keep their fast launches up, Broadwell will have DDR4...??
There is a theoretical explanation for that jump from 3 to 5... but that'd just be speculation as I cannot be bothered to research /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />



So, if Intel keep their fast launches up, Broadwell will have DDR4...??

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#5
Posted 02/25/2012 11:09 PM   
ddr4?? in 2013?? oh man.. really? great.. upgrading between 2 different waves of tech generation.... im caught between the 2...

Kepler? or the mysterious beast Maxwell?
Ivy B. or Haswell?
ddr3 or ddr4?
witch mobo for all of this??? /unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' />


what shall i do now??? /pinch.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':pinch:' /> everything is delayed!

NOW im not sure when to upgrade.... seriously guys... /wallbash.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wallbash:' />

tho i'm only gonna have money in Q1 2013 now all is a mess in my head...
did not want a simple CPU/ GFX/ RAM upgrade to become so long to achieve like the previous major upgrade.... /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />
ddr4?? in 2013?? oh man.. really? great.. upgrading between 2 different waves of tech generation.... im caught between the 2...



Kepler? or the mysterious beast Maxwell?

Ivy B. or Haswell?

ddr3 or ddr4?

witch mobo for all of this??? /unsure.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':unsure:' />





what shall i do now??? /pinch.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':pinch:' /> everything is delayed!



NOW im not sure when to upgrade.... seriously guys... /wallbash.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wallbash:' />



tho i'm only gonna have money in Q1 2013 now all is a mess in my head...

did not want a simple CPU/ GFX/ RAM upgrade to become so long to achieve like the previous major upgrade.... /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />

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#6
Posted 04/14/2012 08:51 PM   
What's the difference between 2400mhz DDR3 and 2400mhz DDR4 besides the lower voltage?
What's the difference between 2400mhz DDR3 and 2400mhz DDR4 besides the lower voltage?

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#7
Posted 04/14/2012 10:12 PM   
[quote name='OblivioN_' date='14 April 2012 - 10:51 PM' timestamp='1334436676' post='1396424']
what shall i do now??? /pinch.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':pinch:' /> everything is delayed!
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My advice: Get the best GPU when Windows 8 arrives - GTX780 ? It's gonna keep you gaming for years, since the gaming industry is stuck. When Haswell comes, get a dual-socket 2x 8-core server platform. Solid performance ! 32GB DDR4 RAM, and boot SSD + cache SSD + HDDs = dreamland !! /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
[quote name='OblivioN_' date='14 April 2012 - 10:51 PM' timestamp='1334436676' post='1396424']

what shall i do now??? /pinch.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':pinch:' /> everything is delayed!



My advice: Get the best GPU when Windows 8 arrives - GTX780 ? It's gonna keep you gaming for years, since the gaming industry is stuck. When Haswell comes, get a dual-socket 2x 8-core server platform. Solid performance ! 32GB DDR4 RAM, and boot SSD + cache SSD + HDDs = dreamland !! /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />

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#8
Posted 04/14/2012 10:39 PM   
[quote name='Tyrdstorm' date='14 April 2012 - 06:12 PM' timestamp='1334441549' post='1396465']
What's the difference between 2400mhz DDR3 and 2400mhz DDR4 besides the lower voltage?
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With DDR4 coming it at 1.2V, a big difference will be the voltage requirements, however Im curious to see the timing settings for DDR4.
[quote name='Tyrdstorm' date='14 April 2012 - 06:12 PM' timestamp='1334441549' post='1396465']

What's the difference between 2400mhz DDR3 and 2400mhz DDR4 besides the lower voltage?





With DDR4 coming it at 1.2V, a big difference will be the voltage requirements, however Im curious to see the timing settings for DDR4.

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#9
Posted 04/14/2012 11:42 PM   
[quote name='RuffeDK' date='14 April 2012 - 11:39 PM' timestamp='1334443145' post='1396480']
My advice: Get the best GPU when Windows 8 arrives - GTX780 ? It's gonna keep you gaming for years, since the gaming industry is stuck. When Haswell comes, get a dual-socket 2x 8-core server platform. Solid performance ! 32GB DDR4 RAM, and boot SSD + cache SSD + HDDs = dreamland !! /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />
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well i am really curious to find out what the 700's series can do! but that is 8 months away (at least)

mas for mobo a single cpu mobo is fine lool just need a nice CPU!

i really wanted the haswell cpu gen! ..... lets see if [b]DDR4 is not uber over priced like when ddr3 came out! [/b]
[quote name='RuffeDK' date='14 April 2012 - 11:39 PM' timestamp='1334443145' post='1396480']

My advice: Get the best GPU when Windows 8 arrives - GTX780 ? It's gonna keep you gaming for years, since the gaming industry is stuck. When Haswell comes, get a dual-socket 2x 8-core server platform. Solid performance ! 32GB DDR4 RAM, and boot SSD + cache SSD + HDDs = dreamland !! /wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' />





well i am really curious to find out what the 700's series can do! but that is 8 months away (at least)



mas for mobo a single cpu mobo is fine lool just need a nice CPU!



i really wanted the haswell cpu gen! ..... lets see if DDR4 is not uber over priced like when ddr3 came out!

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#10
Posted 04/15/2012 01:15 AM   
[quote name='Tyrdstorm' date='14 April 2012 - 04:12 PM' timestamp='1334441549' post='1396465']
What's the difference between 2400mhz DDR3 and 2400mhz DDR4 besides the lower voltage?
[/quote]

Very likely DDR4 will have tighter timings at the same speed.
[quote name='Tyrdstorm' date='14 April 2012 - 04:12 PM' timestamp='1334441549' post='1396465']

What's the difference between 2400mhz DDR3 and 2400mhz DDR4 besides the lower voltage?





Very likely DDR4 will have tighter timings at the same speed.



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#11
Posted 04/15/2012 06:14 AM   
[quote name='Honey Badger' date='15 April 2012 - 08:14 AM' timestamp='1334470467' post='1396555']
Very likely DDR4 will have tighter timings at the same speed.
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And much higher bandwidth...
[quote name='Honey Badger' date='15 April 2012 - 08:14 AM' timestamp='1334470467' post='1396555']

Very likely DDR4 will have tighter timings at the same speed.



And much higher bandwidth...

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#12
Posted 04/15/2012 12:16 PM   
[quote name='RuffeDK' date='15 April 2012 - 06:16 AM' timestamp='1334492175' post='1396635']
And much higher bandwidth...
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One would assume they'll have Quad-Channel standards, so that in of itself will be high bandwidth of course.
[quote name='RuffeDK' date='15 April 2012 - 06:16 AM' timestamp='1334492175' post='1396635']

And much higher bandwidth...





One would assume they'll have Quad-Channel standards, so that in of itself will be high bandwidth of course.



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#13
Posted 04/15/2012 02:06 PM   
[quote name='Honey Badger' date='15 April 2012 - 07:06 AM' timestamp='1334498790' post='1396651']
One would assume they'll have Quad-Channel standards, so that in of itself will be high bandwidth of course.
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Why would you assume quad channel? I cannot see laptop and entry desktops having 4 dimm slots populated...
[quote name='Honey Badger' date='15 April 2012 - 07:06 AM' timestamp='1334498790' post='1396651']

One would assume they'll have Quad-Channel standards, so that in of itself will be high bandwidth of course.







Why would you assume quad channel? I cannot see laptop and entry desktops having 4 dimm slots populated...



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#14
Posted 04/15/2012 05:38 PM   
[quote name='Honey Badger' date='15 April 2012 - 03:06 PM' timestamp='1334498790' post='1396651']
One would assume they'll have Quad-Channel standards, so that in of itself will be high bandwidth of course.
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No, the topology has changed with DDR4. No more dual, triple, or quad-channel configurations. DDR4 will utilize a point-to-point topology instead. In other words, every DDR4 module that's installed will have it's own dedicated channel.

The primary advantages DDR4 has over DDR3 are higher transfer rates (2133-4266 MT/s vs DDR3's 800-2133 MT/s) and lower operating voltages. DDR4's latencies will be numerically higher than DDR3's due to the fact that the I/O clock cycles are shorter, however the actual time interval (measured in nanoseconds) between internal memory operations will be slightly lower with DDR4 due to the improved manufacturing process.
[quote name='Honey Badger' date='15 April 2012 - 03:06 PM' timestamp='1334498790' post='1396651']

One would assume they'll have Quad-Channel standards, so that in of itself will be high bandwidth of course.





No, the topology has changed with DDR4. No more dual, triple, or quad-channel configurations. DDR4 will utilize a point-to-point topology instead. In other words, every DDR4 module that's installed will have it's own dedicated channel.



The primary advantages DDR4 has over DDR3 are higher transfer rates (2133-4266 MT/s vs DDR3's 800-2133 MT/s) and lower operating voltages. DDR4's latencies will be numerically higher than DDR3's due to the fact that the I/O clock cycles are shorter, however the actual time interval (measured in nanoseconds) between internal memory operations will be slightly lower with DDR4 due to the improved manufacturing process.

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Posted 04/15/2012 07:24 PM   
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