GeForce Drivers Occaisionally Not loading on bootup.
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Hello,

I've recently have been running into an issue where the GeForce drivers for our machines will not load on boot. This started happening mid-January and occasionally since then. When the drivers fail to load windows loads at 640x480 with 4 bit color quality. If we reboot once, or a few times it will return to normal like nothing has happened. It seems very hit or miss when rebooting. I have a number of machines experiencing this issue. Their hardware is identical (listed below). I've swapped harddrives from a known bad machine to a known good machine and the issue follows. (Narrowing out hardware failure).

I have a feeling it may be something related to recent windows updates, maybe the update pushed out in December/January. Mainly because the issue is randomly coming up, I'm assuming when the machines are automatically updating/rebooting or when a user manually triggers the install updates and shut down option randomly. I have 2 output files (which I can attach) of all the windows updates installed to a freshly imaged machine with no issues and a machine that has been experiencing the issue with a lot of windows updates. Its something like 278 updates vs 405.

I guess what I'm trying to find out is, are there any known issues with this driver version and recent windows updates. Or am I barking up the wrong tree with with the windows updates. And, if a driver update patches this issue, is there a changelog available?

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS 512MB
Video Driver Date: 8/27/2007
Driver Version: 6.14.11.6230
Video Card Bios Info: Version 60.86.41.00.48

Machine: HP
CPU: 2.99 Core 2 Duo
RAM: 4GB
Motherboard: unknown hp brand/
Monitor: HP L1950
OS: XP SP3
Sound Card: on board hp.

I can get any additional information if needed.

I'm also researching the last few updates installed which were:
KB:
2618444
2619339
2620712
2624667
2633171
2639417
2641690
2618451
2598479
2603381
2631813
2646524
2584146
2585542
Hello,



I've recently have been running into an issue where the GeForce drivers for our machines will not load on boot. This started happening mid-January and occasionally since then. When the drivers fail to load windows loads at 640x480 with 4 bit color quality. If we reboot once, or a few times it will return to normal like nothing has happened. It seems very hit or miss when rebooting. I have a number of machines experiencing this issue. Their hardware is identical (listed below). I've swapped harddrives from a known bad machine to a known good machine and the issue follows. (Narrowing out hardware failure).



I have a feeling it may be something related to recent windows updates, maybe the update pushed out in December/January. Mainly because the issue is randomly coming up, I'm assuming when the machines are automatically updating/rebooting or when a user manually triggers the install updates and shut down option randomly. I have 2 output files (which I can attach) of all the windows updates installed to a freshly imaged machine with no issues and a machine that has been experiencing the issue with a lot of windows updates. Its something like 278 updates vs 405.



I guess what I'm trying to find out is, are there any known issues with this driver version and recent windows updates. Or am I barking up the wrong tree with with the windows updates. And, if a driver update patches this issue, is there a changelog available?



Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS 512MB

Video Driver Date: 8/27/2007

Driver Version: 6.14.11.6230

Video Card Bios Info: Version 60.86.41.00.48



Machine: HP

CPU: 2.99 Core 2 Duo

RAM: 4GB

Motherboard: unknown hp brand/

Monitor: HP L1950

OS: XP SP3

Sound Card: on board hp.



I can get any additional information if needed.



I'm also researching the last few updates installed which were:

KB:

2618444

2619339

2620712

2624667

2633171

2639417

2641690

2618451

2598479

2603381

2631813

2646524

2584146

2585542

#1
Posted 02/23/2012 09:36 PM   
got the same issue, 10 pc's in our network have started to do this (running nvidia chipsets), with 5 pc's that are identical, 3 are sometimes starting at 4k colour, one only works at 4k colour, ive tried removing the hard drive and installing in another identical pc and found the same things as you (not hardware related). These computers aren't set to receive automatic updates, I don't think its a driver issue, I think its a common windows file (but which one?), I've run a parallel installation on the same dive and it works fine with the same drivers, full colour. A reinstall over the top doesn't work, sfc does nothing.
got the same issue, 10 pc's in our network have started to do this (running nvidia chipsets), with 5 pc's that are identical, 3 are sometimes starting at 4k colour, one only works at 4k colour, ive tried removing the hard drive and installing in another identical pc and found the same things as you (not hardware related). These computers aren't set to receive automatic updates, I don't think its a driver issue, I think its a common windows file (but which one?), I've run a parallel installation on the same dive and it works fine with the same drivers, full colour. A reinstall over the top doesn't work, sfc does nothing.

#2
Posted 02/27/2012 09:14 AM   
[quote name='mikef714' date='23 February 2012 - 04:36 PM' timestamp='1330033010' post='1374056']
I've swapped harddrives from a known bad machine to a known good machine and the issue follows. (Narrowing out hardware failure).
[/quote]

Bad hard drives?
[quote name='mikef714' date='23 February 2012 - 04:36 PM' timestamp='1330033010' post='1374056']

I've swapped harddrives from a known bad machine to a known good machine and the issue follows. (Narrowing out hardware failure).





Bad hard drives?

"This is your code. These are also your bugs. Really. Yes, the API runtime and the
driver have bugs, but this is not one of them. Now go fix it already." -fgiesen

#3
Posted 02/27/2012 05:02 PM   
I'm having the same damn problem! I've rolled back through 3 beta drives, and it was STILL doing it. I did a complete fresh install (following the "installation guide" in the forum) and it worked. For a 3 days... and now as I post this, I'm 1280x1024 on a 1080p monitor with no areo on an windows 7... I guess I'll have to do it AGAIN! annoying as hell.
I'm having the same damn problem! I've rolled back through 3 beta drives, and it was STILL doing it. I did a complete fresh install (following the "installation guide" in the forum) and it worked. For a 3 days... and now as I post this, I'm 1280x1024 on a 1080p monitor with no areo on an windows 7... I guess I'll have to do it AGAIN! annoying as hell.

My Rig:
NZXT Switch 810 White
Intel i5 3570K (not OC)
MSI Z77-GD65
MSI GTX680 Twin Frozr factory-OC@1058MHz base/1124MHz boost
12GB (2x4 & 2x2) Kingston HyperX Memory 1600MHz
System: Crucial M4 128GB SSD
Storage: Samsung 830 250GB SSD & WD 1TB HDD
OS: Windows 7 64-bit
Corsair H80 CPU water cooling
Corsair HX850 PSU
Razer Blackwidow Ultimate
Logitech G600 MMO mouse
Klipsch Promedia 2.1 speaker system
Asus 23.6' VS Series LCD

#4
Posted 02/28/2012 02:49 PM   
[quote name='Invr4get' date='29 February 2012 - 02:49 AM' timestamp='1330440583' post='1376166']
I'm having the same damn problem! I've rolled back through 3 beta drives, and it was STILL doing it. I did a complete fresh install (following the "installation guide" in the forum) and it worked. For a 3 days... and now as I post this, I'm 1280x1024 on a 1080p monitor with no areo on an windows 7... I guess I'll have to do it AGAIN! annoying as hell.
[/quote]

Where is this installation guide?
[quote name='Invr4get' date='29 February 2012 - 02:49 AM' timestamp='1330440583' post='1376166']

I'm having the same damn problem! I've rolled back through 3 beta drives, and it was STILL doing it. I did a complete fresh install (following the "installation guide" in the forum) and it worked. For a 3 days... and now as I post this, I'm 1280x1024 on a 1080p monitor with no areo on an windows 7... I guess I'll have to do it AGAIN! annoying as hell.





Where is this installation guide?

#5
Posted 03/05/2012 07:57 AM   
This is exactly what I'm dealing with right now (295.73 WHQL). Before this, it was freezing on the pulsating Windows logo. Then I did a clean installation, and it booted fine the first time, and now the driver usually fails to load on reboot, with Device Manager showing an error Code 43 for my GTX 570s. Same **** with all the post 285 beta drivers. Come on Nvidia, a WHQL certified driver should not be having these issues.

Core i5-760 @ 4GHz
GTX 570 SLI
ASRock P55 Extreme4
8GB DDR3
HP 2210m LCD
This is exactly what I'm dealing with right now (295.73 WHQL). Before this, it was freezing on the pulsating Windows logo. Then I did a clean installation, and it booted fine the first time, and now the driver usually fails to load on reboot, with Device Manager showing an error Code 43 for my GTX 570s. Same **** with all the post 285 beta drivers. Come on Nvidia, a WHQL certified driver should not be having these issues.



Core i5-760 @ 4GHz

GTX 570 SLI

ASRock P55 Extreme4

8GB DDR3

HP 2210m LCD

Core i5-760 @ 4.0GHz

GTX 570 SLI

8GB DDR3

ASRock P55 Extreme4

HP 2509m LCD 1920x1080

#6
Posted 03/06/2012 02:20 AM   
I have been having this same issue myself with GTX275 SLi setup. Instead of rebooting i disable the two cards and then enable them in the Device Manager. The drivers and the control panel all start working again without a reboot. It's becoming really annoying. I dont think this was an nvidia update as i have not done one in a while but a windows 7 64 bit update.
I have been having this same issue myself with GTX275 SLi setup. Instead of rebooting i disable the two cards and then enable them in the Device Manager. The drivers and the control panel all start working again without a reboot. It's becoming really annoying. I dont think this was an nvidia update as i have not done one in a while but a windows 7 64 bit update.

#7
Posted 03/06/2012 08:37 AM   
Over the last few weeks I've also been having this issue :( It normally comes down to re installing the drivers again. Which again is hit and miss cause sometimes I get the SLI option and sometimes I don't :)

Is this a known issue? I would love to just be able to turn on the computer and not worry about whether or not I'm going to lose 20 minutes re installing the drivers.

Running 2x GTX 460's in "SLI", when the option appears. Other than that everything is working great, just waiting to see what card is going to be coming out next for when I move to the Ivy-Bridge CPU, who knows with all these issues it could force me away to ATI :(

Cheers
Ian
Over the last few weeks I've also been having this issue :( It normally comes down to re installing the drivers again. Which again is hit and miss cause sometimes I get the SLI option and sometimes I don't :)



Is this a known issue? I would love to just be able to turn on the computer and not worry about whether or not I'm going to lose 20 minutes re installing the drivers.



Running 2x GTX 460's in "SLI", when the option appears. Other than that everything is working great, just waiting to see what card is going to be coming out next for when I move to the Ivy-Bridge CPU, who knows with all these issues it could force me away to ATI :(



Cheers

Ian

#8
Posted 03/07/2012 11:31 AM   
[quote name='Alvin ALvrez' date='05 March 2012 - 02:57 AM' timestamp='1330934233' post='1378725']
Where is this installation guide?
[/quote]

Since Invr4get has not replied.

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=169555

Personally, I never use any driver cleaners, but do want you want.
[quote name='Alvin ALvrez' date='05 March 2012 - 02:57 AM' timestamp='1330934233' post='1378725']

Where is this installation guide?





Since Invr4get has not replied.



http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=169555



Personally, I never use any driver cleaners, but do want you want.

#9
Posted 03/07/2012 06:50 PM   
[quote name='nvtweakman' date='27 February 2012 - 12:02 PM' timestamp='1330362136' post='1375780']
Bad hard drives?
[/quote]


We've considered that too. But the drives have been passing multiple rounds of the HP DST tests.

The only thing that has been "fixing" this issue is reimaging the entire machine. Same drivers as the installed image but I guess several different windows updates. Other than that I didn't notice any difference. I thought this might have been a Windows XP thing but seeing that it is also happening on Windows 7 rules that out.
[quote name='nvtweakman' date='27 February 2012 - 12:02 PM' timestamp='1330362136' post='1375780']

Bad hard drives?







We've considered that too. But the drives have been passing multiple rounds of the HP DST tests.



The only thing that has been "fixing" this issue is reimaging the entire machine. Same drivers as the installed image but I guess several different windows updates. Other than that I didn't notice any difference. I thought this might have been a Windows XP thing but seeing that it is also happening on Windows 7 rules that out.

#10
Posted 03/14/2012 12:53 AM   
[quote name='mikef714' date='14 March 2012 - 12:53 PM' timestamp='1331686425' post='1382494']
We've considered that too. But the drives have been passing multiple rounds of the HP DST tests.

The only thing that has been "fixing" this issue is reimaging the entire machine. Same drivers as the installed image but I guess several different windows updates. Other than that I didn't notice any difference. I thought this might have been a Windows XP thing but seeing that it is also happening on Windows 7 rules that out.
[/quote]

It has to be a windows file issue, even though I've ran repairs and service pack updates the issue is still there. I've copied the registry from other identical working machines and still get the same issue. Just as a matter of interest what antivirus are you using?(on symantec corp 9 here)
[quote name='mikef714' date='14 March 2012 - 12:53 PM' timestamp='1331686425' post='1382494']

We've considered that too. But the drives have been passing multiple rounds of the HP DST tests.



The only thing that has been "fixing" this issue is reimaging the entire machine. Same drivers as the installed image but I guess several different windows updates. Other than that I didn't notice any difference. I thought this might have been a Windows XP thing but seeing that it is also happening on Windows 7 rules that out.





It has to be a windows file issue, even though I've ran repairs and service pack updates the issue is still there. I've copied the registry from other identical working machines and still get the same issue. Just as a matter of interest what antivirus are you using?(on symantec corp 9 here)

#11
Posted 03/14/2012 10:45 PM   
Actually... I think thats what these machines have too. Will confirm tomorrow.
Actually... I think thats what these machines have too. Will confirm tomorrow.

#12
Posted 03/16/2012 03:55 AM   
Yes! We are also on Symantec.

Anyone else with these issues and on Symantec?
Yes! We are also on Symantec.



Anyone else with these issues and on Symantec?

#13
Posted 03/16/2012 10:23 PM   
Same issue. I think it's the drivers. I had the same problems with all the 290 beta's.

I use Microsoft Security Essentials as my AV.

[quote]
[Display]
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium, 64-bit (Service Pack 1)
DirectX version: 11.0
GPU processor: GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Driver version: 296.10
DirectX support: 11
CUDA Cores: 384
Core clock: 880 MHz
Shader clock: 1760 MHz
Memory clock: 2100 MHz (4200 MHz data rate)
Memory interface: 256-bit
Total available graphics memory: 4095 MB
Dedicated video memory: 1024 MB GDDR5
System video memory: 0 MB
Shared system memory: 3071 MB
Video BIOS version: 70.24.21.00.00
IRQ: 16
Bus: PCI Express x8 Gen2
GPU processor: GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Driver version: 296.10
DirectX support: 11
CUDA Cores: 384
Core clock: 880 MHz
Shader clock: 1760 MHz
Memory clock: 2100 MHz (4200 MHz data rate)
Memory interface: 256-bit
Total available graphics memory: 4095 MB
Dedicated video memory: 1024 MB GDDR5
System video memory: 0 MB
Shared system memory: 3071 MB
Video BIOS version: 70.24.11.00.00
IRQ: 17
Bus: PCI Express x8 Gen2

[Components]

easyDaemonAPIU64.DLL 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components
WLMerger.exe 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components
daemonu.exe 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components
ComUpdatus.exe 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components
NvUpdtr.dll 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components
NvUpdt.dll 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components
nvui.dll 7.17.12.9610 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdsync.exe 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdplcy.dll 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdbat.dll 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvxdapix.dll 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
NVCPL.DLL 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component
nvCplUI.exe 4.3.790.0 NVIDIA Control Panel
nvWSS.dll 6.14.12.9610 NVIDIA Workstation Server
nvViTvS.dll 6.14.12.9610 NVIDIA Video Server
NVSTVIEW.EXE 7.17.12.9610 NVIDIA 3D Vision Photo Viewer
NVSTTEST.EXE 7.17.12.9610 NVIDIA 3D Vision Test Application
NVSTRES.DLL 7.17.12.9610 NVIDIA 3D Vision Module (0)
NVMCTRAY.DLL 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA Media Center Library
nvDispS.dll 6.14.12.9610 NVIDIA Display Server
PhysX 09.12.0213 NVIDIA PhysX
NVCUDA.DLL 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA CUDA 4.1.1 driver
nvGameS.dll 6.14.12.9610 NVIDIA 3D Settings Server
[/quote]
Same issue. I think it's the drivers. I had the same problems with all the 290 beta's.



I use Microsoft Security Essentials as my AV.





[Display]

Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium, 64-bit (Service Pack 1)

DirectX version: 11.0

GPU processor: GeForce GTX 560 Ti

Driver version: 296.10

DirectX support: 11

CUDA Cores: 384

Core clock: 880 MHz

Shader clock: 1760 MHz

Memory clock: 2100 MHz (4200 MHz data rate)

Memory interface: 256-bit

Total available graphics memory: 4095 MB

Dedicated video memory: 1024 MB GDDR5

System video memory: 0 MB

Shared system memory: 3071 MB

Video BIOS version: 70.24.21.00.00

IRQ: 16

Bus: PCI Express x8 Gen2

GPU processor: GeForce GTX 560 Ti

Driver version: 296.10

DirectX support: 11

CUDA Cores: 384

Core clock: 880 MHz

Shader clock: 1760 MHz

Memory clock: 2100 MHz (4200 MHz data rate)

Memory interface: 256-bit

Total available graphics memory: 4095 MB

Dedicated video memory: 1024 MB GDDR5

System video memory: 0 MB

Shared system memory: 3071 MB

Video BIOS version: 70.24.11.00.00

IRQ: 17

Bus: PCI Express x8 Gen2



[Components]



easyDaemonAPIU64.DLL 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components

WLMerger.exe 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components

daemonu.exe 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components

ComUpdatus.exe 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components

NvUpdtr.dll 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components

NvUpdt.dll 1.7.11.0 NVIDIA Update Components

nvui.dll 7.17.12.9610 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component

nvxdsync.exe 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component

nvxdplcy.dll 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component

nvxdbat.dll 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component

nvxdapix.dll 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component

NVCPL.DLL 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA User Experience Driver Component

nvCplUI.exe 4.3.790.0 NVIDIA Control Panel

nvWSS.dll 6.14.12.9610 NVIDIA Workstation Server

nvViTvS.dll 6.14.12.9610 NVIDIA Video Server

NVSTVIEW.EXE 7.17.12.9610 NVIDIA 3D Vision Photo Viewer

NVSTTEST.EXE 7.17.12.9610 NVIDIA 3D Vision Test Application

NVSTRES.DLL 7.17.12.9610 NVIDIA 3D Vision Module (0)

NVMCTRAY.DLL 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA Media Center Library

nvDispS.dll 6.14.12.9610 NVIDIA Display Server

PhysX 09.12.0213 NVIDIA PhysX

NVCUDA.DLL 8.17.12.9610 NVIDIA CUDA 4.1.1 driver

nvGameS.dll 6.14.12.9610 NVIDIA 3D Settings Server

#14
Posted 03/16/2012 10:30 PM   
mikef714,

Are all your machines running SLI? It doesn't seem like they would be, but this issue has been tied to SLI. A clean installation of 296.10 fixed the problem for me. I am sure there are other things that could cause the drivers not to load.
mikef714,



Are all your machines running SLI? It doesn't seem like they would be, but this issue has been tied to SLI. A clean installation of 296.10 fixed the problem for me. I am sure there are other things that could cause the drivers not to load.

Core i5-760 @ 4.0GHz

GTX 570 SLI

8GB DDR3

ASRock P55 Extreme4

HP 2509m LCD 1920x1080

#15
Posted 03/17/2012 05:16 AM   
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