AMD 7950 Reviewed
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So, the AMD HD 7950 has been paper launched for about a day now and no one reported on it, which is wierd...

Anyways, it's pretty cool and things. It can be overclocked to supercede the HD 7970 on air, uses very little power for a card of it's class and it's rumoured will be able to be unlocked at some point to become a 7970. The same little trick AMD did with the 6xxx series.

All in all, a very impressive card. If you have any overclocking or enthusiast sense at all, it's basically a 7970 for 100$ less, and if get it on water, will probably overclock and offer practically indistinguishable performance to a 7970, which is super cool, especially consider how much they actually is cut out or non functional on the card.

They also consume only 10 watts over a standard GTX 480 in 2 way Xfire, which is kind of amazing IMO. I have always shunned away from dual card solutions because the power draw has been monstrous for the performance gain.

Nvidia's 6x0 series better do my taxes and fight the Borg for me if they think these cards are a "disappointment"

[url="http://legitreviews.com/article/1847/1/"]http://legitreviews.com/article/1847/1/[/url]
[url="http://www.guru3d.com/article/his-radeon-hd-7950-review/"]http://www.guru3d.com/article/his-radeon-hd-7950-review/[/url]
So, the AMD HD 7950 has been paper launched for about a day now and no one reported on it, which is wierd...



Anyways, it's pretty cool and things. It can be overclocked to supercede the HD 7970 on air, uses very little power for a card of it's class and it's rumoured will be able to be unlocked at some point to become a 7970. The same little trick AMD did with the 6xxx series.



All in all, a very impressive card. If you have any overclocking or enthusiast sense at all, it's basically a 7970 for 100$ less, and if get it on water, will probably overclock and offer practically indistinguishable performance to a 7970, which is super cool, especially consider how much they actually is cut out or non functional on the card.



They also consume only 10 watts over a standard GTX 480 in 2 way Xfire, which is kind of amazing IMO. I have always shunned away from dual card solutions because the power draw has been monstrous for the performance gain.



Nvidia's 6x0 series better do my taxes and fight the Borg for me if they think these cards are a "disappointment"



http://legitreviews.com/article/1847/1/

http://www.guru3d.com/article/his-radeon-hd-7950-review/
lol @ borg - Resistance is Futile.

Interesting, I wonder what they will retail for in AU.

I have been impressed by how my 6750 performs in my HTPC box.....maybe I will consider one of these next upgrade.

Also, I doubt even an array of nvidias best graphics cards could calculate where your tax dollars are going lol
lol @ borg - Resistance is Futile.



Interesting, I wonder what they will retail for in AU.



I have been impressed by how my 6750 performs in my HTPC box.....maybe I will consider one of these next upgrade.



Also, I doubt even an array of nvidias best graphics cards could calculate where your tax dollars are going lol

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#2
Posted 02/01/2012 03:02 AM   
[quote name='Saijan Prince.' date='31 January 2012 - 10:02 PM' timestamp='1328065336' post='1363434']
lol @ borg - Resistance is Futile.
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Pokemon has taught me that the magic of friendship overcomes all obstacles.

[quote name='Saijan Prince.' date='31 January 2012 - 10:02 PM' timestamp='1328065336' post='1363434']
Interesting, I wonder what they will retail for in AU.

I have been impressed by how my 6750 performs in my HTPC box.....maybe I will consider one of these next upgrade.

Also, I doubt even an array of nvidias best graphics cards could calculate where your tax dollars are going lol
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I actually pay little in taxes. They can do whatever they want with it. lolz.

Yes. I actually really like these cards man. If Nvidia's cards aren't drastically better, and similarly priced, I think I may start looking at 7950's water cooled for my next liquid job.
[quote name='Saijan Prince.' date='31 January 2012 - 10:02 PM' timestamp='1328065336' post='1363434']

lol @ borg - Resistance is Futile.





Pokemon has taught me that the magic of friendship overcomes all obstacles.



[quote name='Saijan Prince.' date='31 January 2012 - 10:02 PM' timestamp='1328065336' post='1363434']

Interesting, I wonder what they will retail for in AU.



I have been impressed by how my 6750 performs in my HTPC box.....maybe I will consider one of these next upgrade.



Also, I doubt even an array of nvidias best graphics cards could calculate where your tax dollars are going lol





I actually pay little in taxes. They can do whatever they want with it. lolz.



Yes. I actually really like these cards man. If Nvidia's cards aren't drastically better, and similarly priced, I think I may start looking at 7950's water cooled for my next liquid job.
I misread that for a second, and thought that you said it consumes about 10 watts more than 2 480's in SLI. I would have LOL'd so hard.
I misread that for a second, and thought that you said it consumes about 10 watts more than 2 480's in SLI. I would have LOL'd so hard.

#4
Posted 02/01/2012 03:45 AM   
[quote name='Osobari' date='31 January 2012 - 10:45 PM' timestamp='1328067906' post='1363449']
I misread that for a second, and thought that you said it consumes about 10 watts more than 2 480's in SLI. I would have LOL'd so hard.
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Lol...no. A single 480. I thought I was mis-reading the chart...
[quote name='Osobari' date='31 January 2012 - 10:45 PM' timestamp='1328067906' post='1363449']

I misread that for a second, and thought that you said it consumes about 10 watts more than 2 480's in SLI. I would have LOL'd so hard.





Lol...no. A single 480. I thought I was mis-reading the chart...
[quote name='Heedless_onE' date='01 February 2012 - 03:36 AM' timestamp='1328067407' post='1363445']
Pokemon has taught me that the magic of friendship overcomes all obstacles.



I actually pay little in taxes. They can do whatever they want with it. lolz.

Yes. I actually really like these cards man. If Nvidia's cards aren't drastically better, and similarly priced, I think I may start looking at 7950's water cooled for my next liquid job.
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Little income tax you mean, you pay out your butt in excise and impost taxes - everyone does.

I can show you how to claim it back though, if you like :)

Yeah I see your point with the gap between nvidia and ATI growing consitently smaller, its hard to look past a card that does nearly everything its competitor does, at such a lower entry fee.

Although I don't want to speak to soon, as I really can't speak to the quality of ATI drivers for current games, since I only use mine for HD content right now.
[quote name='Heedless_onE' date='01 February 2012 - 03:36 AM' timestamp='1328067407' post='1363445']

Pokemon has taught me that the magic of friendship overcomes all obstacles.







I actually pay little in taxes. They can do whatever they want with it. lolz.



Yes. I actually really like these cards man. If Nvidia's cards aren't drastically better, and similarly priced, I think I may start looking at 7950's water cooled for my next liquid job.





Little income tax you mean, you pay out your butt in excise and impost taxes - everyone does.



I can show you how to claim it back though, if you like :)



Yeah I see your point with the gap between nvidia and ATI growing consitently smaller, its hard to look past a card that does nearly everything its competitor does, at such a lower entry fee.



Although I don't want to speak to soon, as I really can't speak to the quality of ATI drivers for current games, since I only use mine for HD content right now.

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#6
Posted 02/01/2012 05:27 AM   
[quote name='Saijan Prince.' date='01 February 2012 - 12:27 AM' timestamp='1328074053' post='1363477']
Little income tax you mean, you pay out your butt in excise and impost taxes - everyone does.

I can show you how to claim it back though, if you like :)

Yeah I see your point with the gap between nvidia and ATI growing consitently smaller, its hard to look past a card that does nearly everything its competitor does, at such a lower entry fee.

Although I don't want to speak to soon, as I really can't speak to the quality of ATI drivers for current games, since I only use mine for HD content right now.
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Yea, same here. I tend to get excited quickly without seeing the competitors. These companies are pretty consistant though...I can't imagine Nvidia's card get's better efficiency. I'm sure it's going to be faster though.

As far as drivers, I actually found them more consistent then Nvidia's in terms of stability, and cleanliness of the control panel. Although, you don't get as many performance tweaks, they are very "plug and play" drivers.
[quote name='Saijan Prince.' date='01 February 2012 - 12:27 AM' timestamp='1328074053' post='1363477']

Little income tax you mean, you pay out your butt in excise and impost taxes - everyone does.



I can show you how to claim it back though, if you like :)



Yeah I see your point with the gap between nvidia and ATI growing consitently smaller, its hard to look past a card that does nearly everything its competitor does, at such a lower entry fee.



Although I don't want to speak to soon, as I really can't speak to the quality of ATI drivers for current games, since I only use mine for HD content right now.





Yea, same here. I tend to get excited quickly without seeing the competitors. These companies are pretty consistant though...I can't imagine Nvidia's card get's better efficiency. I'm sure it's going to be faster though.



As far as drivers, I actually found them more consistent then Nvidia's in terms of stability, and cleanliness of the control panel. Although, you don't get as many performance tweaks, they are very "plug and play" drivers.
I'd love to see some kepler action to drive the prices of these cards down. I mean since Nvidia says the 7970 was disappointing when they blow it out of the water they'll drive the prices down of it much like they did the 6970/50... I'm holding into my tax dollars (there on the way /cheer) till Nvidia shows me the kepler!
I'd love to see some kepler action to drive the prices of these cards down. I mean since Nvidia says the 7970 was disappointing when they blow it out of the water they'll drive the prices down of it much like they did the 6970/50... I'm holding into my tax dollars (there on the way /cheer) till Nvidia shows me the kepler!

#8
Posted 02/01/2012 07:38 AM   
[quote name='Heedless_onE' date='01 February 2012 - 06:37 AM' timestamp='1328078239' post='1363493']
Yea, same here. I tend to get excited quickly without seeing the competitors. These companies are pretty consistant though...I can't imagine Nvidia's card get's better efficiency. I'm sure it's going to be faster though.

As far as drivers, I actually found them more consistent then Nvidia's in terms of stability, and cleanliness of the control panel. Although, you don't get as many performance tweaks, they are very "plug and play" drivers.
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Yeah but you were not running crossfire I bet, which is a pretty major concern really if your looking at getting one of these.
[quote name='Heedless_onE' date='01 February 2012 - 06:37 AM' timestamp='1328078239' post='1363493']

Yea, same here. I tend to get excited quickly without seeing the competitors. These companies are pretty consistant though...I can't imagine Nvidia's card get's better efficiency. I'm sure it's going to be faster though.



As far as drivers, I actually found them more consistent then Nvidia's in terms of stability, and cleanliness of the control panel. Although, you don't get as many performance tweaks, they are very "plug and play" drivers.





Yeah but you were not running crossfire I bet, which is a pretty major concern really if your looking at getting one of these.

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#9
Posted 02/01/2012 07:44 AM   
AMD's drivers have improved and Crossfire is scaling better than ever (it actually trumps SLI's scaling at the moment). What's hurting AMD is that high profile games (like Skyrim) tend to have issues with Crossfire. It's a shame really, because AMD still gets flak over their drivers despite the fact that most games run great in both single and multi-GPU configurations. It seems that AMD needs to work on prioritizing their driver optimizations. Allowing driver bugs to stay resident in the most popular AAA games is unacceptable.

The 7950 looks great by the way. I was equally impressed with the 7970. If the 7950 can easily be modded to a 7970, AMD has a clear winner on their hands. I'll be very surprised if the initial Kepler based GPU's are more efficient. I don't see GK104 wiping the floor with Tahiti performance wise either. The upcoming Kepler GPU's may be faster, but I don't think it's going to be the landslide that Nvidia fanboi's are predicting.
AMD's drivers have improved and Crossfire is scaling better than ever (it actually trumps SLI's scaling at the moment). What's hurting AMD is that high profile games (like Skyrim) tend to have issues with Crossfire. It's a shame really, because AMD still gets flak over their drivers despite the fact that most games run great in both single and multi-GPU configurations. It seems that AMD needs to work on prioritizing their driver optimizations. Allowing driver bugs to stay resident in the most popular AAA games is unacceptable.



The 7950 looks great by the way. I was equally impressed with the 7970. If the 7950 can easily be modded to a 7970, AMD has a clear winner on their hands. I'll be very surprised if the initial Kepler based GPU's are more efficient. I don't see GK104 wiping the floor with Tahiti performance wise either. The upcoming Kepler GPU's may be faster, but I don't think it's going to be the landslide that Nvidia fanboi's are predicting.

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#10
Posted 02/01/2012 08:29 AM   
HD7950 > GTX580

HD7950 < GTX295 /wub.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wub:' />

Still... nothin' worthy upgrading.
HD7950 > GTX580



HD7950 < GTX295 /wub.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wub:' />



Still... nothin' worthy upgrading.

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#11
Posted 02/01/2012 11:36 AM   
[quote name='RuffeDK' date='01 February 2012 - 11:36 AM' timestamp='1328096175' post='1363571']
HD7950 > GTX580

HD7950 < GTX295 /wub.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wub:' />

Still... nothin' worthy upgrading.
[/quote]

Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?

Even the GTX 480 will trump the GTX 295. A single GTX 480 consistently outperformed my old GTX 280 SLI setup (which is faster than a single 295) and the 580 widens this gap even further.
[quote name='RuffeDK' date='01 February 2012 - 11:36 AM' timestamp='1328096175' post='1363571']

HD7950 > GTX580



HD7950 < GTX295 /wub.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':wub:' />



Still... nothin' worthy upgrading.





Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?



Even the GTX 480 will trump the GTX 295. A single GTX 480 consistently outperformed my old GTX 280 SLI setup (which is faster than a single 295) and the 580 widens this gap even further.

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#12
Posted 02/01/2012 04:13 PM   
http://rog.asus.com/74172012/news/unboxing-the-new-asus-radeon-hd-7970-and-hd-7950-directcu-ii-graphics-cards/

[quote] [b]Viewed from above, the 7950 is surprisingly longer than the 7970[/b]

[b][img]http://rog.asus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/7970-7950-top-comparison-2-799x599.jpg[/img]
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[/quote]
http://rog.asus.com/74172012/news/unboxing-the-new-asus-radeon-hd-7970-and-hd-7950-directcu-ii-graphics-cards/



Viewed from above, the 7950 is surprisingly longer than the 7970



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#13
Posted 02/01/2012 04:20 PM   
[quote name='Ultimate PC Man' date='01 February 2012 - 11:20 AM' timestamp='1328113209' post='1363682']
[url="http://rog.asus.com/74172012/news/unboxing-the-new-asus-radeon-hd-7970-and-hd-7950-directcu-ii-graphics-cards/"]http://rog.asus.com/...graphics-cards/[/url]


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Dats cool... i actually like long cards. Short cards, like the GTX 560 look weird...
[quote name='Ultimate PC Man' date='01 February 2012 - 11:20 AM' timestamp='1328113209' post='1363682']

http://rog.asus.com/...graphics-cards/









Dats cool... i actually like long cards. Short cards, like the GTX 560 look weird...
[quote name='slamscaper' date='01 February 2012 - 10:13 AM' timestamp='1328112810' post='1363677']
Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?

Even the GTX 480 will trump the GTX 295. A single GTX 480 consistently outperformed my old GTX 280 SLI setup (which is faster than a single 295) and the 580 widens this gap even further.
[/quote]
Everywhere I've seen for myself (not to mention seeing results on various sites), 480 < 295 < 580. I (nor anyone I know personally) had 280s, but I would imagine it would be 480 < 295 < 280 < 580.

[quote name='Ultimate PC Man' date='01 February 2012 - 10:20 AM' timestamp='1328113209' post='1363682']
http://rog.asus.com/74172012/news/unboxing-the-new-asus-radeon-hd-7970-and-hd-7950-directcu-ii-graphics-cards/
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I found that quite odd as well. It seems to be specifically ASUS doing dimensional changes though.

Also seen here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1196856/official-amd-radeon-hd-7950-7970-owners-club/2890#post_16343065


Edited out typos because my fingers can't outpace my thoughts.
[quote name='slamscaper' date='01 February 2012 - 10:13 AM' timestamp='1328112810' post='1363677']

Whatchu talkin' bout Willis?



Even the GTX 480 will trump the GTX 295. A single GTX 480 consistently outperformed my old GTX 280 SLI setup (which is faster than a single 295) and the 580 widens this gap even further.



Everywhere I've seen for myself (not to mention seeing results on various sites), 480 < 295 < 580. I (nor anyone I know personally) had 280s, but I would imagine it would be 480 < 295 < 280 < 580.



[quote name='Ultimate PC Man' date='01 February 2012 - 10:20 AM' timestamp='1328113209' post='1363682']

http://rog.asus.com/74172012/news/unboxing-the-new-asus-radeon-hd-7970-and-hd-7950-directcu-ii-graphics-cards/



I found that quite odd as well. It seems to be specifically ASUS doing dimensional changes though.



Also seen here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1196856/official-amd-radeon-hd-7950-7970-owners-club/2890#post_16343065





Edited out typos because my fingers can't outpace my thoughts.

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#15
Posted 02/01/2012 06:42 PM   
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