1080p @24HZ?
Hi,

I have an LG 55lw650s 3D Tv and 570 GTX graphics card. I tried the trial version of nvidia 3DTv Play. I played Duke Nukem Forever at 1080p 24 Hz. Totally unplayable. With 720p @60Hz playable. After some research, I came accross with Tridef 3D and iz3D. Seems like Tridef is better than iz3D according to the comments.
So, my question is:
Is Tridef 3D 1080p @60Hz SBS (SideBySide) better than 3DTV Play 720p @60Hz? Which one would you prefer?
I heard that with SBS, the actual resolution halved.
Thanks in advance.
Hi,



I have an LG 55lw650s 3D Tv and 570 GTX graphics card. I tried the trial version of nvidia 3DTv Play. I played Duke Nukem Forever at 1080p 24 Hz. Totally unplayable. With 720p @60Hz playable. After some research, I came accross with Tridef 3D and iz3D. Seems like Tridef is better than iz3D according to the comments.

So, my question is:

Is Tridef 3D 1080p @60Hz SBS (SideBySide) better than 3DTV Play 720p @60Hz? Which one would you prefer?

I heard that with SBS, the actual resolution halved.

Thanks in advance.

#1
Posted 12/05/2011 11:53 AM   
[quote name='Elgitaro' date='05 December 2011 - 06:53 AM' timestamp='1323086023' post='1337823']
Is Tridef 3D 1080p @60Hz SBS (SideBySide) better than 3DTV Play 720p @60Hz? Which one would you prefer?
[/quote]

SBS mode is not what you would use on that TV. Use Line Interlaced 1080p. And yes, it looks much better than 720p.
[quote name='Elgitaro' date='05 December 2011 - 06:53 AM' timestamp='1323086023' post='1337823']

Is Tridef 3D 1080p @60Hz SBS (SideBySide) better than 3DTV Play 720p @60Hz? Which one would you prefer?





SBS mode is not what you would use on that TV. Use Line Interlaced 1080p. And yes, it looks much better than 720p.

#2
Posted 12/05/2011 04:34 PM   
I can only speak for Tridef and 3DTV Play. I just switched to Tridef and havn't played many games yet, but in the few that i have, Tridef comes out ahead. Mass Effect was made playable by Tridef, thats saying something. You can also record video with Tridef, but not 3DTV Play at least as far as im aware. However Tridef definitely has its faults too. For example, in Portal 2, when your holding the robot head, it looks pretty flat, with no depth, Nvidia doesn' have this problem, but then with Nvidia, first person weapons look huge sometimes, with Tridef, less so. So ideally, in this situation at least where neither option is perfect, you'd have both.
I can only speak for Tridef and 3DTV Play. I just switched to Tridef and havn't played many games yet, but in the few that i have, Tridef comes out ahead. Mass Effect was made playable by Tridef, thats saying something. You can also record video with Tridef, but not 3DTV Play at least as far as im aware. However Tridef definitely has its faults too. For example, in Portal 2, when your holding the robot head, it looks pretty flat, with no depth, Nvidia doesn' have this problem, but then with Nvidia, first person weapons look huge sometimes, with Tridef, less so. So ideally, in this situation at least where neither option is perfect, you'd have both.

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#3
Posted 12/05/2011 05:11 PM   
The nice thing with TriDef, on the LG Passive TV that I had, I could play in Interlaced (fully supported). Also I could switch to any other 3D Format that my Display supported. I was not limited, nor being forced to use a single Format that was not even the Format that my Display was designed to use for Optimal Performance and Picture Quality in 3D.
The nice thing with TriDef, on the LG Passive TV that I had, I could play in Interlaced (fully supported). Also I could switch to any other 3D Format that my Display supported. I was not limited, nor being forced to use a single Format that was not even the Format that my Display was designed to use for Optimal Performance and Picture Quality in 3D.

#4
Posted 12/05/2011 05:26 PM   
[quote name='boke' date='05 December 2011 - 04:34 PM' timestamp='1323102846' post='1337904']
SBS mode is not what you would use on that TV. Use Line Interlaced 1080p. And yes, it looks much better than 720p.
[/quote]
Ok then I will use that mode. I guess 3DTV Play doesn't support that mode.
Thanks for the replies btw.
[quote name='boke' date='05 December 2011 - 04:34 PM' timestamp='1323102846' post='1337904']

SBS mode is not what you would use on that TV. Use Line Interlaced 1080p. And yes, it looks much better than 720p.



Ok then I will use that mode. I guess 3DTV Play doesn't support that mode.

Thanks for the replies btw.

#5
Posted 12/05/2011 08:16 PM   
[quote name='boke' date='05 December 2011 - 08:34 AM' timestamp='1323102846' post='1337904']
SBS mode is not what you would use on that TV. Use Line Interlaced 1080p. And yes, it looks much better than 720p.
[/quote]

The LG passives have a ghosting bug in interleaved. Side by side is all I've been able to do effectively.
[quote name='boke' date='05 December 2011 - 08:34 AM' timestamp='1323102846' post='1337904']

SBS mode is not what you would use on that TV. Use Line Interlaced 1080p. And yes, it looks much better than 720p.





The LG passives have a ghosting bug in interleaved. Side by side is all I've been able to do effectively.

#6
Posted 12/06/2011 03:50 PM   
[quote name='quisp65' date='06 December 2011 - 10:50 AM' timestamp='1323186611' post='1338412']
The LG passives have a ghosting bug in interleaved. Side by side is all I've been able to do effectively.
[/quote]

All of them? Wow that sucks. Can they do top bottom mode? If so try it out. It looks considerably better than SBS on a passive.
[quote name='quisp65' date='06 December 2011 - 10:50 AM' timestamp='1323186611' post='1338412']

The LG passives have a ghosting bug in interleaved. Side by side is all I've been able to do effectively.





All of them? Wow that sucks. Can they do top bottom mode? If so try it out. It looks considerably better than SBS on a passive.

#7
Posted 12/06/2011 04:00 PM   
[quote name='boke' date='06 December 2011 - 08:00 AM' timestamp='1323187234' post='1338421']
All of them? Wow that sucks. Can they do top bottom mode? If so try it out. It looks considerably better than SBS on a passive.
[/quote]


From the threads I've been following on the issue they seem to say it is all of them. However LG makes the passive for the other companies and some companies like Toshiba have eliminated it from what I have heard. This thread seems to be following it. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1344018
[quote name='boke' date='06 December 2011 - 08:00 AM' timestamp='1323187234' post='1338421']

All of them? Wow that sucks. Can they do top bottom mode? If so try it out. It looks considerably better than SBS on a passive.







From the threads I've been following on the issue they seem to say it is all of them. However LG makes the passive for the other companies and some companies like Toshiba have eliminated it from what I have heard. This thread seems to be following it. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1344018

#8
Posted 12/06/2011 04:12 PM   
Hello everybody,

This is my situation :)

- TV LG55lw650S
- Nvidia card GeForce GT 555M ( last driver 295.73 WHQL )

The problem is that when I try to install Nvidia 3DTV Play, it does not detect the TV as compatible. I ve contacted Nvidia to verify and they say it is not compatible yet and I ve demanded them to support the TV (tey ve got a process for that as well).

I ve seen people in different FORUMS saying that they can play games 3D in LG55lw650S.

Does anybody made it with this TV and games in 3D? Could you please explain me how?



The funny thing is that for example I can work perfectly to "Crysis 2" in 3D when I select the "2 images mode" in the Game and in the TV as well ( without any 3D driver installed ... NO Nvidia 3DTV Play or IZ3D Driver or Tridef Driver, nothing ) but I can not play for example Assassins Creed Revelation or Call of Duty: Black Ops or Batman: Arkham City.


I am desperate about this, I d be extremely thankful is somebody could give me a solution.


Thanks!!!


[quote name='Elgitaro' date='05 December 2011 - 12:53 PM' timestamp='1323086023' post='1337823']
Hi,

I have an LG 55lw650s 3D Tv and 570 GTX graphics card. I tried the trial version of nvidia 3DTv Play. I played Duke Nukem Forever at 1080p 24 Hz. Totally unplayable. With 720p @60Hz playable. After some research, I came accross with Tridef 3D and iz3D. Seems like Tridef is better than iz3D according to the comments.
So, my question is:
Is Tridef 3D 1080p @60Hz SBS (SideBySide) better than 3DTV Play 720p @60Hz? Which one would you prefer?
I heard that with SBS, the actual resolution halved.
Thanks in advance.
[/quote]
Hello everybody,



This is my situation :)



- TV LG55lw650S

- Nvidia card GeForce GT 555M ( last driver 295.73 WHQL )



The problem is that when I try to install Nvidia 3DTV Play, it does not detect the TV as compatible. I ve contacted Nvidia to verify and they say it is not compatible yet and I ve demanded them to support the TV (tey ve got a process for that as well).



I ve seen people in different FORUMS saying that they can play games 3D in LG55lw650S.



Does anybody made it with this TV and games in 3D? Could you please explain me how?







The funny thing is that for example I can work perfectly to "Crysis 2" in 3D when I select the "2 images mode" in the Game and in the TV as well ( without any 3D driver installed ... NO Nvidia 3DTV Play or IZ3D Driver or Tridef Driver, nothing ) but I can not play for example Assassins Creed Revelation or Call of Duty: Black Ops or Batman: Arkham City.





I am desperate about this, I d be extremely thankful is somebody could give me a solution.





Thanks!!!





[quote name='Elgitaro' date='05 December 2011 - 12:53 PM' timestamp='1323086023' post='1337823']

Hi,



I have an LG 55lw650s 3D Tv and 570 GTX graphics card. I tried the trial version of nvidia 3DTv Play. I played Duke Nukem Forever at 1080p 24 Hz. Totally unplayable. With 720p @60Hz playable. After some research, I came accross with Tridef 3D and iz3D. Seems like Tridef is better than iz3D according to the comments.

So, my question is:

Is Tridef 3D 1080p @60Hz SBS (SideBySide) better than 3DTV Play 720p @60Hz? Which one would you prefer?

I heard that with SBS, the actual resolution halved.

Thanks in advance.

#9
Posted 02/24/2012 10:39 AM   
On the so-called color bug you may check out this link fpr a fix - http://3dvision-blog.com/7271-lg-passive-3d-hdtv-colorbug-investigation-and-fix-in-stereo-3d-mode/
I myself am not a passive 3dtv owner, wo I cannot attest to the effectiveness of this fix, but it is probably genuine.
On the comparison of f-p 720p vs, SBS/T-B 1080p, definitely SBS/T-B. 720p offers a better picture in terms of viewing the hud and text, as there are some negative effects associated with having the image squashed/stretched, which is the case with SBS/T-B. Nevertheless the 1080p SBS/T-B comes closer to 1080p@24hz f-p (full hd), that 720p f-p. Of course there is the matter of performance, and cost/benefit analysis, but if your machine can handle 1080p in stereo you should definitely go the SBS way, or interleaved as is the case with passive tvs.

As for iz3d vs. DDD, iz3d used to be better, but than it got am arrow to the knee and the project was discontinued. Nevertheless there are games out there, which benefit the most from iz3d vs. 3dtvplay or DDD. Mirror's Edge and POP:WW to name a few /3dvision vs. iz3d/.
On the so-called color bug you may check out this link fpr a fix - http://3dvision-blog.com/7271-lg-passive-3d-hdtv-colorbug-investigation-and-fix-in-stereo-3d-mode/

I myself am not a passive 3dtv owner, wo I cannot attest to the effectiveness of this fix, but it is probably genuine.

On the comparison of f-p 720p vs, SBS/T-B 1080p, definitely SBS/T-B. 720p offers a better picture in terms of viewing the hud and text, as there are some negative effects associated with having the image squashed/stretched, which is the case with SBS/T-B. Nevertheless the 1080p SBS/T-B comes closer to 1080p@24hz f-p (full hd), that 720p f-p. Of course there is the matter of performance, and cost/benefit analysis, but if your machine can handle 1080p in stereo you should definitely go the SBS way, or interleaved as is the case with passive tvs.



As for iz3d vs. DDD, iz3d used to be better, but than it got am arrow to the knee and the project was discontinued. Nevertheless there are games out there, which benefit the most from iz3d vs. 3dtvplay or DDD. Mirror's Edge and POP:WW to name a few /3dvision vs. iz3d/.
#10
Posted 02/24/2012 11:28 AM   
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