540M, Scammed by nvidia :( crapty graphic card
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Hey,
I just bought a new laptop, with a GREAT graphic card, Nvidia Geforce 540M,
The best graphic card ever invented when you read the description about the graphic card.
So Nvidia says the graphic card can handle high graphic games, with directx11
but cant handle crapty graphic games such as League of legends and Minecraft.
Every time i tab out of a game, i get a message that the drivers are out dated and the game has to restart.
there is nothing wrong with the CPU and Ram.


So whats the problem nvidia, can you help a costumer ? that has bought a product from you ?

Regards,
Tehreal

PS. I cant even play minecraft, i have 4 fps. thats pretty crapty, because you say it can handle high graphic games, but not minecraft... or league of legends or Dragon age 2 which is a directx11 game
Hey,

I just bought a new laptop, with a GREAT graphic card, Nvidia Geforce 540M,

The best graphic card ever invented when you read the description about the graphic card.

So Nvidia says the graphic card can handle high graphic games, with directx11

but cant handle crapty graphic games such as League of legends and Minecraft.

Every time i tab out of a game, i get a message that the drivers are out dated and the game has to restart.

there is nothing wrong with the CPU and Ram.





So whats the problem nvidia, can you help a costumer ? that has bought a product from you ?



Regards,

Tehreal



PS. I cant even play minecraft, i have 4 fps. thats pretty crapty, because you say it can handle high graphic games, but not minecraft... or league of legends or Dragon age 2 which is a directx11 game

#1
Posted 04/24/2011 12:47 AM   
Update latest gfx driver 270.61 on the main site

I could Starcraft 2 on high setting with GT540M
Update latest gfx driver 270.61 on the main site



I could Starcraft 2 on high setting with GT540M

Desktop : Intel E5300 @ 3.6Ghz | Asus 9800GT 512Mb @ 700-1700-1000 | Apacer 3 Gb 800Mhz

Laptop : Acer 14" HD LED i5 480M @ 2.93Ghz | Nvidia GT 540M 1Gb @ 700-1400-950 | Apacer 4 Gb 1333Mhz | Intel SSD 40Gb

OS : Windows 7 x64

YouTube Channel

#2
Posted 04/24/2011 04:55 AM   
[quote name='Thousandsmagister' date='24 April 2011 - 02:55 PM' timestamp='1303620902' post='1229516']
Update latest gfx driver 270.61 on the main site

I could Starcraft 2 on high setting with GT540M
[/quote]
with the description for Nvidia 540M it shuold be able to run on ultra
i play starcraft 2 with it as well on high and it lags...
Its a joke.. Trying to find out is the graphic card is self only able to do that... or is the one i have broken..
[quote name='Thousandsmagister' date='24 April 2011 - 02:55 PM' timestamp='1303620902' post='1229516']

Update latest gfx driver 270.61 on the main site



I could Starcraft 2 on high setting with GT540M



with the description for Nvidia 540M it shuold be able to run on ultra

i play starcraft 2 with it as well on high and it lags...

Its a joke.. Trying to find out is the graphic card is self only able to do that... or is the one i have broken..

#3
Posted 04/24/2011 05:41 AM   
A 'GT540M' is actually lower performing than the 'recommended' desktop GPU for Starcraft 2- the old 8800GTX.
I don't have any lag at all since i had Intel SSD :D
I don't have any lag at all since i had Intel SSD :D

Desktop : Intel E5300 @ 3.6Ghz | Asus 9800GT 512Mb @ 700-1700-1000 | Apacer 3 Gb 800Mhz

Laptop : Acer 14" HD LED i5 480M @ 2.93Ghz | Nvidia GT 540M 1Gb @ 700-1400-950 | Apacer 4 Gb 1333Mhz | Intel SSD 40Gb

OS : Windows 7 x64

YouTube Channel

#5
Posted 04/24/2011 06:04 AM   
Im on the same boat as you man. I got a laptop with the GT540M and it lags in Minecraft, League of Legends and Counter strike source. wtf?

specs:
i7 2ghz
4gb ram

Any fix? :S
Im on the same boat as you man. I got a laptop with the GT540M and it lags in Minecraft, League of Legends and Counter strike source. wtf?



specs:

i7 2ghz

4gb ram



Any fix? :S

#6
Posted 04/24/2011 06:56 AM   
One of these days people are going to learn Laptops aren't made for gaming. The GT540M is, at best, equivalent to about a GT440, which cannot play most of the games listed here, without issues. Also, Minecraft is old, it's probably not technically supported by modern drivers.

If you want to game, get a desktop, or get a console and leave us computer people be. Don't buy a laptop and expect to play Dragon Age 2 on it, which, by the way, gives even high end desktops issues.

Also, try updating your drivers, as most of the time, the drivers that come on the laptop are crap.
One of these days people are going to learn Laptops aren't made for gaming. The GT540M is, at best, equivalent to about a GT440, which cannot play most of the games listed here, without issues. Also, Minecraft is old, it's probably not technically supported by modern drivers.



If you want to game, get a desktop, or get a console and leave us computer people be. Don't buy a laptop and expect to play Dragon Age 2 on it, which, by the way, gives even high end desktops issues.



Also, try updating your drivers, as most of the time, the drivers that come on the laptop are crap.



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#7
Posted 04/24/2011 07:01 AM   
[quote name='Goddess84' date='24 April 2011 - 06:01 PM' timestamp='1303628477' post='1229535']
One of these days people are going to learn Laptops aren't made for gaming. The GT540M is, at best, equivalent to about a GT440, which cannot play most of the games listed here, without issues. Also, Minecraft is old, it's probably not technically supported by modern drivers.

If you want to game, get a desktop, or get a console and leave us computer people be. Don't buy a laptop and expect to play Dragon Age 2 on it, which, by the way, gives even high end desktops issues.

Also, try updating your drivers, as most of the time, the drivers that come on the laptop are crap.
[/quote]

I'm not asking my laptop to play Dragon Age 2 or any high graphics game. Just asking the laptop to play low graphics game like minecraft or counterstrike. If my 256mb 8400GS could play counter strike without lag, why can't a new 540M play it without lag?

Shouldn't Nvidia provide some online help?

Yes desktop are better for gaming, but i prefer laptops because I don't really play high graphics game
[quote name='Goddess84' date='24 April 2011 - 06:01 PM' timestamp='1303628477' post='1229535']

One of these days people are going to learn Laptops aren't made for gaming. The GT540M is, at best, equivalent to about a GT440, which cannot play most of the games listed here, without issues. Also, Minecraft is old, it's probably not technically supported by modern drivers.



If you want to game, get a desktop, or get a console and leave us computer people be. Don't buy a laptop and expect to play Dragon Age 2 on it, which, by the way, gives even high end desktops issues.



Also, try updating your drivers, as most of the time, the drivers that come on the laptop are crap.





I'm not asking my laptop to play Dragon Age 2 or any high graphics game. Just asking the laptop to play low graphics game like minecraft or counterstrike. If my 256mb 8400GS could play counter strike without lag, why can't a new 540M play it without lag?



Shouldn't Nvidia provide some online help?



Yes desktop are better for gaming, but i prefer laptops because I don't really play high graphics game

#8
Posted 04/24/2011 07:15 AM   
Try :

_Open Nvidia Control Panel - Manage 3D setting - Global setting : High Performance Nvidia Processor or Program Setting - add "minecraft.exe & counterstrike.exe" to the list

_Battery setting : High Performance
Try :



_Open Nvidia Control Panel - Manage 3D setting - Global setting : High Performance Nvidia Processor or Program Setting - add "minecraft.exe & counterstrike.exe" to the list



_Battery setting : High Performance

Desktop : Intel E5300 @ 3.6Ghz | Asus 9800GT 512Mb @ 700-1700-1000 | Apacer 3 Gb 800Mhz

Laptop : Acer 14" HD LED i5 480M @ 2.93Ghz | Nvidia GT 540M 1Gb @ 700-1400-950 | Apacer 4 Gb 1333Mhz | Intel SSD 40Gb

OS : Windows 7 x64

YouTube Channel

#9
Posted 04/24/2011 07:46 AM   
[quote name='Goddess84' date='24 April 2011 - 08:01 AM' timestamp='1303628477' post='1229535']
One of these days people are going to learn Laptops aren't made for gaming. The GT540M is, at best, equivalent to about a GT440, which cannot play most of the games listed here, without issues. Also, Minecraft is old, it's probably not technically supported by modern drivers.

If you want to game, get a desktop, or get a console and leave us computer people be. Don't buy a laptop and expect to play Dragon Age 2 on it, which, by the way, gives even high end desktops issues.

Also, try updating your drivers, as most of the time, the drivers that come on the laptop are crap.
[/quote]It isnt about that, they say its epic on directx11 games, and everything, man all we want is legit drivers
[quote name='Goddess84' date='24 April 2011 - 08:01 AM' timestamp='1303628477' post='1229535']

One of these days people are going to learn Laptops aren't made for gaming. The GT540M is, at best, equivalent to about a GT440, which cannot play most of the games listed here, without issues. Also, Minecraft is old, it's probably not technically supported by modern drivers.



If you want to game, get a desktop, or get a console and leave us computer people be. Don't buy a laptop and expect to play Dragon Age 2 on it, which, by the way, gives even high end desktops issues.



Also, try updating your drivers, as most of the time, the drivers that come on the laptop are crap.

It isnt about that, they say its epic on directx11 games, and everything, man all we want is legit drivers

#10
Posted 04/24/2011 08:50 AM   
[quote name='Thousandsmagister' date='24 April 2011 - 06:46 PM' timestamp='1303631175' post='1229542']
Try :

_Open Nvidia Control Panel - Manage 3D setting - Global setting : High Performance Nvidia Processor or Program Setting - add "minecraft.exe & counterstrike.exe" to the list

_Battery setting : High Performance
[/quote]

I tried that. Still lags, it's the problem with the GPU load. It drops randomly.
[quote name='Thousandsmagister' date='24 April 2011 - 06:46 PM' timestamp='1303631175' post='1229542']

Try :



_Open Nvidia Control Panel - Manage 3D setting - Global setting : High Performance Nvidia Processor or Program Setting - add "minecraft.exe & counterstrike.exe" to the list



_Battery setting : High Performance





I tried that. Still lags, it's the problem with the GPU load. It drops randomly.

#11
Posted 04/24/2011 09:43 AM   
Weird,latest driver (270.61) should fix this .
Just try 2006 and some older games on my laptop .It max out everything on ultra setting (60 FPS)

Maybe you need to force Nvidia by this setting :
Display : 1366x768
Anti-Alias : 4x (oftional)
Setting : High or Ultra
Weird,latest driver (270.61) should fix this .

Just try 2006 and some older games on my laptop .It max out everything on ultra setting (60 FPS)



Maybe you need to force Nvidia by this setting :

Display : 1366x768

Anti-Alias : 4x (oftional)

Setting : High or Ultra

Desktop : Intel E5300 @ 3.6Ghz | Asus 9800GT 512Mb @ 700-1700-1000 | Apacer 3 Gb 800Mhz

Laptop : Acer 14" HD LED i5 480M @ 2.93Ghz | Nvidia GT 540M 1Gb @ 700-1400-950 | Apacer 4 Gb 1333Mhz | Intel SSD 40Gb

OS : Windows 7 x64

YouTube Channel

#12
Posted 04/24/2011 10:09 AM   
Actually, I'd rate a 540M somewhere below a GT430, but it should still be better than an 8400 (though that wasn't in a laptop, was it?).
Actually, I'd rate a 540M somewhere below a GT430, but it should still be better than an 8400 (though that wasn't in a laptop, was it?).

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#13
Posted 04/24/2011 11:03 AM   
[quote name='Discordia' date='24 April 2011 - 10:03 PM' timestamp='1303643023' post='1229586']
Actually, I'd rate a 540M somewhere below a GT430, but it should still be better than an 8400 (though that wasn't in a laptop, was it?).
[/quote]

8400 was not a laptop. It was a a desktop and worked fine for like 1 or 2 years until one of the capacitor started leaking. Yeah i thought 540M should be better than 8400.

Could mine be faulty or something?
[quote name='Discordia' date='24 April 2011 - 10:03 PM' timestamp='1303643023' post='1229586']

Actually, I'd rate a 540M somewhere below a GT430, but it should still be better than an 8400 (though that wasn't in a laptop, was it?).





8400 was not a laptop. It was a a desktop and worked fine for like 1 or 2 years until one of the capacitor started leaking. Yeah i thought 540M should be better than 8400.



Could mine be faulty or something?

#14
Posted 04/24/2011 12:08 PM   
Well, my point was that the 8400 had desktop hardware supporting it, not laptop.

Laptops are built around power-saving and heat-reduction. It's all about making the battery last as long as possible because that's what most laptop users complain about most of all. They can live with slow CPUs and low-end graphics, because all they're doing is watching grainy videos on Youtube and tagging 'friends' they don't even know on Facebook. But they can't stand batteries that run out after 'only' 4 hours. On top of this, they are required to not go up in flames when you launch a 3d application. So, you get 'M' for mobile CPUs with no cache that throttle their clocks at the drop of a hat, 5400rpm hard drives that spin down if they're not accessed for 30 seconds and GPUs with half the cores of the model they are pretending to be, running at reduced clock speeds. None of these things might be a show-stopper on its own but, together, they add up to a machine that just can't play games well.

Now, I'm not saying your laptop has any of the above problems. You haven't actually told us what it is or given us any details of the spec, apart from the graphics. It's obviously new as it has a GT500 GPU, so it probably doesn't have a Celeron CPU, or other similar cr*p, but it's still a laptop.

There are gaming laptops available. They are too big to fit on any lap, have two GPUs, cost a fortune and can still only just about play games at average settings.

Having said all that, I still think it should be faster than an 8400.

Is it still running the drivers it came with? If so, you need to install the latest from nVidia's web site.

If you are seeing the GPU load dropping out, it's probably because it's having to wait for something to catch up - CPU or hard drive or something. Maybe there is a rogue application hogging CPU cycles. I saw this on a friend's laptop the other day. Part of the McAfee Anti-virus program was using all the available cycles and keeping the CPU load at 100%. I killed it off and the CPU usage dropped to about 15%. The laptop ran much better then.
Well, my point was that the 8400 had desktop hardware supporting it, not laptop.



Laptops are built around power-saving and heat-reduction. It's all about making the battery last as long as possible because that's what most laptop users complain about most of all. They can live with slow CPUs and low-end graphics, because all they're doing is watching grainy videos on Youtube and tagging 'friends' they don't even know on Facebook. But they can't stand batteries that run out after 'only' 4 hours. On top of this, they are required to not go up in flames when you launch a 3d application. So, you get 'M' for mobile CPUs with no cache that throttle their clocks at the drop of a hat, 5400rpm hard drives that spin down if they're not accessed for 30 seconds and GPUs with half the cores of the model they are pretending to be, running at reduced clock speeds. None of these things might be a show-stopper on its own but, together, they add up to a machine that just can't play games well.



Now, I'm not saying your laptop has any of the above problems. You haven't actually told us what it is or given us any details of the spec, apart from the graphics. It's obviously new as it has a GT500 GPU, so it probably doesn't have a Celeron CPU, or other similar cr*p, but it's still a laptop.



There are gaming laptops available. They are too big to fit on any lap, have two GPUs, cost a fortune and can still only just about play games at average settings.



Having said all that, I still think it should be faster than an 8400.



Is it still running the drivers it came with? If so, you need to install the latest from nVidia's web site.



If you are seeing the GPU load dropping out, it's probably because it's having to wait for something to catch up - CPU or hard drive or something. Maybe there is a rogue application hogging CPU cycles. I saw this on a friend's laptop the other day. Part of the McAfee Anti-virus program was using all the available cycles and keeping the CPU load at 100%. I killed it off and the CPU usage dropped to about 15%. The laptop ran much better then.

Core i5 4670K @ 4.3GHz with 4GHz uncore
Corsair H100 water cooler
8GB Patriot Viper DDR3 @ 2400MHz
Gigabyte Z87X-OC mobo
SLI eVGA GTX670 FTW (1227MHz boost 6800MHz VRAM)
Soundblaster Z with 5.1 speakers
112GB OCZ Vertex 3 SSD
240GB OCZ Vertex 4 SSD
Corsair Carbide 500R case (white)
Akasa PowerXtreme 1200W PSU
HP ZR2740W 2560 x 1440 27" IPS panel
Windows 7 Pro 64bit

#15
Posted 04/24/2011 02:05 PM   
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