GTX 570 with dual monitors using two different resolutions
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Hi. Tom's review states there are over-heating problems with the GTX 570/580 when using dual monitors and two DIFFERENT resolutions:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-570-gf110-performance,2806-2.html

This is a deal-killer for me. I'll have to find something else (ATI) if it is serious. Is this a well known issue? I can't find any information on it at all. Thanks for any help.
Hi. Tom's review states there are over-heating problems with the GTX 570/580 when using dual monitors and two DIFFERENT resolutions:



http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-570-gf110-performance,2806-2.html



This is a deal-killer for me. I'll have to find something else (ATI) if it is serious. Is this a well known issue? I can't find any information on it at all. Thanks for any help.

#1
Posted 12/08/2010 09:35 PM   
over heating? are you mad?

that card can take almost 100 degrees centigrade before it clocks down to cool off as a safetly measure.
over heating? are you mad?



that card can take almost 100 degrees centigrade before it clocks down to cool off as a safetly measure.

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#2
Posted 12/08/2010 09:43 PM   
So... I can also use it to boil water?
So... I can also use it to boil water?

#3
Posted 12/08/2010 10:14 PM   
all high end graphics cards run hot. if you removed the heatsink and put a small amount of water on the GPU directly (voiding your warranty and breaking hte graphics card) yes the water would boil. but that is the same with high end ATI cards as well.

because there is a heatsink on the card, it wont get that hot.
all high end graphics cards run hot. if you removed the heatsink and put a small amount of water on the GPU directly (voiding your warranty and breaking hte graphics card) yes the water would boil. but that is the same with high end ATI cards as well.



because there is a heatsink on the card, it wont get that hot.

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[quote name='The Professor' date='11 August 2011 - 10:33 AM' timestamp='1313055223' post='1277858']

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#4
Posted 12/08/2010 10:38 PM   
[quote name='Iliya' date='08 December 2010 - 04:35 PM' timestamp='1291844105' post='1158087']
Hi. Tom's review states there are over-heating problems with the GTX 570/580 when using dual monitors and two DIFFERENT resolutions:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-570-gf110-performance,2806-2.html

This is a deal-killer for me. I'll have to find something else (ATI) if it is serious. Is this a well known issue? I can't find any information on it at all. Thanks for any help.
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See the problem here is that you read Toms Hardware.

The site used to be credible in the 90s, but since then is widely seen as a "review-for-hire" organization that takes payouts from vendors in order to make products look good or bad.


Not to mention stolen content on the webpage, including the famous photoshopped multi-monitor picture that was stolen from another site and photo-shopped to make it appear as if the test was done by Tomshardware.


I'd save yourself the headache and only read reputable sites. Hardocp.com and Anandtech.com are good places to start.
[quote name='Iliya' date='08 December 2010 - 04:35 PM' timestamp='1291844105' post='1158087']

Hi. Tom's review states there are over-heating problems with the GTX 570/580 when using dual monitors and two DIFFERENT resolutions:



http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-570-gf110-performance,2806-2.html



This is a deal-killer for me. I'll have to find something else (ATI) if it is serious. Is this a well known issue? I can't find any information on it at all. Thanks for any help.





See the problem here is that you read Toms Hardware.



The site used to be credible in the 90s, but since then is widely seen as a "review-for-hire" organization that takes payouts from vendors in order to make products look good or bad.





Not to mention stolen content on the webpage, including the famous photoshopped multi-monitor picture that was stolen from another site and photo-shopped to make it appear as if the test was done by Tomshardware.





I'd save yourself the headache and only read reputable sites. Hardocp.com and Anandtech.com are good places to start.

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#5
Posted 12/08/2010 10:41 PM   
I tested this. 71 deg with two monitors one at 1920x1200 the other 1680x1050. When I reduced to one monitor the temp dropped to 53 within a minute or two. Bring the second monitor back and it's up to 70 in a few of minutes. /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />
I tested this. 71 deg with two monitors one at 1920x1200 the other 1680x1050. When I reduced to one monitor the temp dropped to 53 within a minute or two. Bring the second monitor back and it's up to 70 in a few of minutes. /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />

#6
Posted 12/12/2010 08:53 AM   
[quote name='MarkcusD' date='12 December 2010 - 12:53 AM' timestamp='1292144016' post='1159642']
I tested this. 71 deg with two monitors one at 1920x1200 the other 1680x1050. When I reduced to one monitor the temp dropped to 53 within a minute or two. Bring the second monitor back and it's up to 70 in a few of minutes. /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />
[/quote]

Hey, but don't worry! It's safe to 212F, right? lol
[quote name='MarkcusD' date='12 December 2010 - 12:53 AM' timestamp='1292144016' post='1159642']

I tested this. 71 deg with two monitors one at 1920x1200 the other 1680x1050. When I reduced to one monitor the temp dropped to 53 within a minute or two. Bring the second monitor back and it's up to 70 in a few of minutes. /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />





Hey, but don't worry! It's safe to 212F, right? lol

#7
Posted 12/13/2010 03:00 PM   
I think the issue is that the card doesn't go into power saving mode with two monitors connected.

Having said that you should check the airflow in your case I have 2 in SLI and they idle mid to high 30's, mid to High 60's while gaming.
I can get them close to the thermal limit 90+ disabling the application throttling and running furmark.
I think the issue is that the card doesn't go into power saving mode with two monitors connected.



Having said that you should check the airflow in your case I have 2 in SLI and they idle mid to high 30's, mid to High 60's while gaming.

I can get them close to the thermal limit 90+ disabling the application throttling and running furmark.
#8
Posted 12/13/2010 11:40 PM   
[color="#008000"][quote name='Qazax' date='08 December 2010 - 10:38 PM' timestamp='1291847911' post='1158115']
all high end graphics cards run hot. if you removed the heatsink and put a small amount of water on the GPU directly (voiding your warranty and breaking hte graphics card) yes the water would boil. but that is the same with high end ATI cards as well.

because there is a heatsink on the card, it wont get that hot.
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+1 Even my old 8800GT could hit 100C (without the fan, nevermind without the heatsink. So could any new CPU and / or GPU - the heatsink is there because the componant generates a lot of heat which need to be dissapated to keep it working.
Think of it like removing the radiator from your car engine and driving around all day.

[color="#008000"][quote name='MarkcusD' date='12 December 2010 - 08:53 AM' timestamp='1292144016' post='1159642']
I tested this. 71 deg with two monitors one at 1920x1200 the other 1680x1050. When I reduced to one monitor the temp dropped to 53 within a minute or two. Bring the second monitor back and it's up to 70 in a few of minutes. /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />
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This makes perfect sence... To run a second monitor, the GPU has to render 2 monitors as opposed to just the 1. This equals more work & as such; more heat.
[quote name='Qazax' date='08 December 2010 - 10:38 PM' timestamp='1291847911' post='1158115']

all high end graphics cards run hot. if you removed the heatsink and put a small amount of water on the GPU directly (voiding your warranty and breaking hte graphics card) yes the water would boil. but that is the same with high end ATI cards as well.



because there is a heatsink on the card, it wont get that hot.



+1 Even my old 8800GT could hit 100C (without the fan, nevermind without the heatsink. So could any new CPU and / or GPU - the heatsink is there because the componant generates a lot of heat which need to be dissapated to keep it working.

Think of it like removing the radiator from your car engine and driving around all day.



[quote name='MarkcusD' date='12 December 2010 - 08:53 AM' timestamp='1292144016' post='1159642']

I tested this. 71 deg with two monitors one at 1920x1200 the other 1680x1050. When I reduced to one monitor the temp dropped to 53 within a minute or two. Bring the second monitor back and it's up to 70 in a few of minutes. /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />



This makes perfect sence... To run a second monitor, the GPU has to render 2 monitors as opposed to just the 1. This equals more work & as such; more heat.

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#9
Posted 12/13/2010 11:58 PM   
[quote name='xXDeltaXx' date='13 December 2010 - 03:58 PM' timestamp='1292284686' post='1160484']
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+1 Even my old 8800GT could hit 100C (without the fan, nevermind without the heatsink. So could any new CPU and / or GPU - the heatsink is there because the componant generates a lot of heat which need to be dissapated to keep it working.
Think of it like removing the radiator from your car engine and driving around all day.

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This makes perfect sence... To run a second monitor, the GPU has to render 2 monitors as opposed to just the 1. This equals more work & as such; more heat.
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I would expect some increase but 20 deg c is a bit much. Idling I'm seeing 50 vs 70 with two cards. All it's rendering is the desktop.
[quote name='xXDeltaXx' date='13 December 2010 - 03:58 PM' timestamp='1292284686' post='1160484']

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+1 Even my old 8800GT could hit 100C (without the fan, nevermind without the heatsink. So could any new CPU and / or GPU - the heatsink is there because the componant generates a lot of heat which need to be dissapated to keep it working.

Think of it like removing the radiator from your car engine and driving around all day.



[color="#008000"]

This makes perfect sence... To run a second monitor, the GPU has to render 2 monitors as opposed to just the 1. This equals more work & as such; more heat.





I would expect some increase but 20 deg c is a bit much. Idling I'm seeing 50 vs 70 with two cards. All it's rendering is the desktop.

#10
Posted 12/20/2010 05:39 PM   
[quote name='MarkcusD' date='20 December 2010 - 09:39 AM' timestamp='1292866755' post='1163923']
I would expect some increase but 20 deg c is a bit much. Idling I'm seeing 50 vs 70 with two cards. [/quote]

You mean two [i]monitors[/i], right?
[quote name='MarkcusD' date='20 December 2010 - 09:39 AM' timestamp='1292866755' post='1163923']

I would expect some increase but 20 deg c is a bit much. Idling I'm seeing 50 vs 70 with two cards.



You mean two monitors, right?

#11
Posted 12/20/2010 05:43 PM   
[quote name='Iliya' date='20 December 2010 - 09:43 AM' timestamp='1292867020' post='1163926']
You mean two [i]monitors[/i], right?
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Yes, my mistake: Two monitors, one card.
[quote name='Iliya' date='20 December 2010 - 09:43 AM' timestamp='1292867020' post='1163926']

You mean two monitors, right?





Yes, my mistake: Two monitors, one card.

#12
Posted 12/20/2010 09:16 PM   
[quote name='MarkcusD' date='20 December 2010 - 09:39 AM' timestamp='1292866755' post='1163923']
I would expect some increase but 20 deg c is a bit much. Idling I'm seeing 50 vs 70 with two cards. All it's rendering is the desktop.
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It's almost certainly the case that the cards don't go into the low power state with two monitors which is why you get the huge rise in temperature.
YOu can check with EVGA Precision or Afterburner.
[quote name='MarkcusD' date='20 December 2010 - 09:39 AM' timestamp='1292866755' post='1163923']

I would expect some increase but 20 deg c is a bit much. Idling I'm seeing 50 vs 70 with two cards. All it's rendering is the desktop.





It's almost certainly the case that the cards don't go into the low power state with two monitors which is why you get the huge rise in temperature.

YOu can check with EVGA Precision or Afterburner.
#13
Posted 12/20/2010 09:25 PM   
I have dual monitors and dual evga gtx 570 superclocked and I'm experiencing the same problem. Both my GPUs are around 70 degree at idle load at all time. It doesn't down clock itself, only when I turn my second monitor off. I'm certain it is NOT the case or the amount of airflow. I don't know what it is.
I have dual monitors and dual evga gtx 570 superclocked and I'm experiencing the same problem. Both my GPUs are around 70 degree at idle load at all time. It doesn't down clock itself, only when I turn my second monitor off. I'm certain it is NOT the case or the amount of airflow. I don't know what it is.

#14
Posted 12/23/2010 11:49 AM   
My 580 SLI rig runs at 35 with one monitor, card 2 is at close to 50 if I have a second monitor connected reguardless of resolution, even does it in clone mode. I have to disable the monitor in the control panel to see the temperature drop.
As i said above the card just doesn't go into the idle state.
Now 50 isn't 70 but that could be the difference in case cooling (yes really), with one monitor, what temperature are you seeing?
My 580 SLI rig runs at 35 with one monitor, card 2 is at close to 50 if I have a second monitor connected reguardless of resolution, even does it in clone mode. I have to disable the monitor in the control panel to see the temperature drop.

As i said above the card just doesn't go into the idle state.

Now 50 isn't 70 but that could be the difference in case cooling (yes really), with one monitor, what temperature are you seeing?
#15
Posted 12/23/2010 05:06 PM   
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