Fallout: New Vegas - White flashing artefacts The game engine HDR got issues with the 400 series
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Sometimes in the environment, I get small white squares blinking here and there. At first, I thought it was an issue with my graphic card, but I couldn't get to reproduce it in any game I played with. I even updated my graphic drivers, DirectX and I still get these flashing white artefacts. After data mining a bit, I discovered most 400 series owners experienced the same issue in this game. Most agree that it is related to the HDR and bleeding edges of 3D objects. I don't know how to describe it otherwise, I'm no expert.

If you turn off antialiasing or HDR (or change it to Bloom), the issue disapears. The game without AA is ugly as hell and Bloom effects doesn't really improve the game experience either. Bethesda Softworks took note of this issue and it is not clear if they plan to solve it in a coming patch or not. If it is the same as my experience of Fallout 3, it is unlikely they will. Since I have not so many hopes they will, I hope Nvidia's Tech Support will find a workaround like they did in the past. I wonder, why is it always hardware techs who ends up solving blunders from software developers anyway? Is quality assurance a myth in software industry nowadays? /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />

Here are some links on Bethesda Softworks forums I found on the subject.
[url="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1120441-please-read-before-posting/"]http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...before-posting/[/url]
[url="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1123359-anti-aliasing-nvidia/"]http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...liasing-nvidia/[/url]
[url="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1123001-strange-graphic-error-blinking-white-box/"]http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...king-white-box/[/url]
Sometimes in the environment, I get small white squares blinking here and there. At first, I thought it was an issue with my graphic card, but I couldn't get to reproduce it in any game I played with. I even updated my graphic drivers, DirectX and I still get these flashing white artefacts. After data mining a bit, I discovered most 400 series owners experienced the same issue in this game. Most agree that it is related to the HDR and bleeding edges of 3D objects. I don't know how to describe it otherwise, I'm no expert.



If you turn off antialiasing or HDR (or change it to Bloom), the issue disapears. The game without AA is ugly as hell and Bloom effects doesn't really improve the game experience either. Bethesda Softworks took note of this issue and it is not clear if they plan to solve it in a coming patch or not. If it is the same as my experience of Fallout 3, it is unlikely they will. Since I have not so many hopes they will, I hope Nvidia's Tech Support will find a workaround like they did in the past. I wonder, why is it always hardware techs who ends up solving blunders from software developers anyway? Is quality assurance a myth in software industry nowadays? /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />



Here are some links on Bethesda Softworks forums I found on the subject.

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...before-posting/

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...liasing-nvidia/

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...king-white-box/

#1
Posted 10/21/2010 12:55 PM   
Sometimes in the environment, I get small white squares blinking here and there. At first, I thought it was an issue with my graphic card, but I couldn't get to reproduce it in any game I played with. I even updated my graphic drivers, DirectX and I still get these flashing white artefacts. After data mining a bit, I discovered most 400 series owners experienced the same issue in this game. Most agree that it is related to the HDR and bleeding edges of 3D objects. I don't know how to describe it otherwise, I'm no expert.

If you turn off antialiasing or HDR (or change it to Bloom), the issue disapears. The game without AA is ugly as hell and Bloom effects doesn't really improve the game experience either. Bethesda Softworks took note of this issue and it is not clear if they plan to solve it in a coming patch or not. If it is the same as my experience of Fallout 3, it is unlikely they will. Since I have not so many hopes they will, I hope Nvidia's Tech Support will find a workaround like they did in the past. I wonder, why is it always hardware techs who ends up solving blunders from software developers anyway? Is quality assurance a myth in software industry nowadays? /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />

Here are some links on Bethesda Softworks forums I found on the subject.
[url="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1120441-please-read-before-posting/"]http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...before-posting/[/url]
[url="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1123359-anti-aliasing-nvidia/"]http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...liasing-nvidia/[/url]
[url="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1123001-strange-graphic-error-blinking-white-box/"]http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...king-white-box/[/url]
Sometimes in the environment, I get small white squares blinking here and there. At first, I thought it was an issue with my graphic card, but I couldn't get to reproduce it in any game I played with. I even updated my graphic drivers, DirectX and I still get these flashing white artefacts. After data mining a bit, I discovered most 400 series owners experienced the same issue in this game. Most agree that it is related to the HDR and bleeding edges of 3D objects. I don't know how to describe it otherwise, I'm no expert.



If you turn off antialiasing or HDR (or change it to Bloom), the issue disapears. The game without AA is ugly as hell and Bloom effects doesn't really improve the game experience either. Bethesda Softworks took note of this issue and it is not clear if they plan to solve it in a coming patch or not. If it is the same as my experience of Fallout 3, it is unlikely they will. Since I have not so many hopes they will, I hope Nvidia's Tech Support will find a workaround like they did in the past. I wonder, why is it always hardware techs who ends up solving blunders from software developers anyway? Is quality assurance a myth in software industry nowadays? /confused.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':confused:' />



Here are some links on Bethesda Softworks forums I found on the subject.

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...before-posting/

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...liasing-nvidia/

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...king-white-box/

#2
Posted 10/21/2010 12:55 PM   
Welcome to the forums! :)
You're probably at the mercy of Bethesda here. They supposedly released a patch today, but who knows if PC gamers will get one, too.
You could try a driver cleaner run. It's worth a shot at least.
Welcome to the forums! :)

You're probably at the mercy of Bethesda here. They supposedly released a patch today, but who knows if PC gamers will get one, too.

You could try a driver cleaner run. It's worth a shot at least.

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#3
Posted 10/22/2010 04:06 AM   
Welcome to the forums! :)
You're probably at the mercy of Bethesda here. They supposedly released a patch today, but who knows if PC gamers will get one, too.
You could try a driver cleaner run. It's worth a shot at least.
Welcome to the forums! :)

You're probably at the mercy of Bethesda here. They supposedly released a patch today, but who knows if PC gamers will get one, too.

You could try a driver cleaner run. It's worth a shot at least.

In Memory of Chris "ChrisRay" Arthington 1982 to 2010


Consider joining the NVIDIA USER 2 USER Forums folding team! Even letting your GPU fold 1 unit a day while you check your email and surf could be a big help. It's easy to setup, and runs in the background while your GPU isn't in use. Click here for assistance!

AMD 970 @ 4.0 * XSPC Rasa * NF980-G65 * Mushkin Blackline 1600 * 2x WD 250GB RAID 0 * Corsair 950TX

* MSI GTX 470 * EVGA GTX 470 * Antec 900

PM's for assistance/clarification are welcome.

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#4
Posted 10/22/2010 04:06 AM   
[quote name='billy66bare' post='1134745' date='Oct 22 2010, 12:06 AM']Welcome to the forums! :)
You're probably at the mercy of Bethesda here. They supposedly released a patch today, but who knows if PC gamers will get one, too.
You could try a driver cleaner run. It's worth a shot at least.[/quote]

I will give it a try. On the bright side, as I am trying to identify a way to circumvent this issue by changing settings in the game's launcher and in Nvidia's Control Centre, I learn a lot about my graphic card. /haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' /> There is an opportunity to learn here, but I would prefer to be an ignorant enjoying the game right now. /teehee.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':teehee:' />
[quote name='billy66bare' post='1134745' date='Oct 22 2010, 12:06 AM']Welcome to the forums! :)

You're probably at the mercy of Bethesda here. They supposedly released a patch today, but who knows if PC gamers will get one, too.

You could try a driver cleaner run. It's worth a shot at least.



I will give it a try. On the bright side, as I am trying to identify a way to circumvent this issue by changing settings in the game's launcher and in Nvidia's Control Centre, I learn a lot about my graphic card. /haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' /> There is an opportunity to learn here, but I would prefer to be an ignorant enjoying the game right now. /teehee.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':teehee:' />

#5
Posted 10/22/2010 05:41 AM   
[quote name='billy66bare' post='1134745' date='Oct 22 2010, 12:06 AM']Welcome to the forums! :)
You're probably at the mercy of Bethesda here. They supposedly released a patch today, but who knows if PC gamers will get one, too.
You could try a driver cleaner run. It's worth a shot at least.[/quote]

I will give it a try. On the bright side, as I am trying to identify a way to circumvent this issue by changing settings in the game's launcher and in Nvidia's Control Centre, I learn a lot about my graphic card. /haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' /> There is an opportunity to learn here, but I would prefer to be an ignorant enjoying the game right now. /teehee.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':teehee:' />
[quote name='billy66bare' post='1134745' date='Oct 22 2010, 12:06 AM']Welcome to the forums! :)

You're probably at the mercy of Bethesda here. They supposedly released a patch today, but who knows if PC gamers will get one, too.

You could try a driver cleaner run. It's worth a shot at least.



I will give it a try. On the bright side, as I am trying to identify a way to circumvent this issue by changing settings in the game's launcher and in Nvidia's Control Centre, I learn a lot about my graphic card. /haha.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':haha:' /> There is an opportunity to learn here, but I would prefer to be an ignorant enjoying the game right now. /teehee.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':teehee:' />

#6
Posted 10/22/2010 05:41 AM   
[url="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1125468-fix-for-white-pixelsspecksdots-nvidia-users/"]http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...s-nvidia-users/[/url]

That fix worked for me on a 480 GTX. Have been running it with 8x anti aliasing with no crashes. Testing with HDR in this session now, so far I've only gotten 1 crash.
http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...s-nvidia-users/



That fix worked for me on a 480 GTX. Have been running it with 8x anti aliasing with no crashes. Testing with HDR in this session now, so far I've only gotten 1 crash.

#7
Posted 10/22/2010 07:25 AM   
[url="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1125468-fix-for-white-pixelsspecksdots-nvidia-users/"]http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...s-nvidia-users/[/url]

That fix worked for me on a 480 GTX. Have been running it with 8x anti aliasing with no crashes. Testing with HDR in this session now, so far I've only gotten 1 crash.
http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...s-nvidia-users/



That fix worked for me on a 480 GTX. Have been running it with 8x anti aliasing with no crashes. Testing with HDR in this session now, so far I've only gotten 1 crash.

#8
Posted 10/22/2010 07:25 AM   
the fix with the nvidia inspector at first glance has seemed to work to get rid of those white flashes. and the other fix for the FPS slow downs has worked as well. so for now i have a perfectly working fallout new vegas but i will keep evaluating my findings as i go in the game so hopefully the white flashes will stay gone!!!... now its time to continue the all-nighter hehe /banana.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':banana:' />
the fix with the nvidia inspector at first glance has seemed to work to get rid of those white flashes. and the other fix for the FPS slow downs has worked as well. so for now i have a perfectly working fallout new vegas but i will keep evaluating my findings as i go in the game so hopefully the white flashes will stay gone!!!... now its time to continue the all-nighter hehe /banana.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':banana:' />

#9
Posted 10/22/2010 08:59 AM   
the fix with the nvidia inspector at first glance has seemed to work to get rid of those white flashes. and the other fix for the FPS slow downs has worked as well. so for now i have a perfectly working fallout new vegas but i will keep evaluating my findings as i go in the game so hopefully the white flashes will stay gone!!!... now its time to continue the all-nighter hehe /banana.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':banana:' />
the fix with the nvidia inspector at first glance has seemed to work to get rid of those white flashes. and the other fix for the FPS slow downs has worked as well. so for now i have a perfectly working fallout new vegas but i will keep evaluating my findings as i go in the game so hopefully the white flashes will stay gone!!!... now its time to continue the all-nighter hehe /banana.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':banana:' />

#10
Posted 10/22/2010 08:59 AM   
Edit: found it

Seems to be working so far.
Edit: found it



Seems to be working so far.

CPU: Intel Core i7 920 @ 4.01Ghz \Titan Fenrir TTC-NK85TZ

Mobo: MSI X58 PRO iX58

NB: Thermalright HR-05 IFX + 8cm Akasa Fan

Ram: Corsair 12GB (6x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz XMS3 Memory CL9(9-9-9-24)

GFX: Nvidia GTX 460 SLI @850/1700/2000

PSU: Corsair 650W TX Series PSU

RAID: PCI-E Silicon Image Sil 3132 Raid Controller

HDD: 90GB OCZ Agility 2 SSD | 2x 120GB WD1200JS (Raid 0) | 2x 1.5TB WD15EADS | {3x 2TB WD20EARS 1x 160GB ST3160023AS (DAS401)}

Sound: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE 7.1 (X-FI Drivers) | Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers

Case: Coolermaster CM690 Dominator Black

Monitor: 24" BENQ G2420HD | 19" Samsung SyncMaster 940BW

Mouse: Razer Deathadder Special Edition

Keyboard: Saitek Eclipse

Headset: Ozone Gaming Gear Attack

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#11
Posted 10/22/2010 03:20 PM   
Edit: found it

Seems to be working so far.
Edit: found it



Seems to be working so far.

CPU: Intel Core i7 920 @ 4.01Ghz \Titan Fenrir TTC-NK85TZ

Mobo: MSI X58 PRO iX58

NB: Thermalright HR-05 IFX + 8cm Akasa Fan

Ram: Corsair 12GB (6x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz XMS3 Memory CL9(9-9-9-24)

GFX: Nvidia GTX 460 SLI @850/1700/2000

PSU: Corsair 650W TX Series PSU

RAID: PCI-E Silicon Image Sil 3132 Raid Controller

HDD: 90GB OCZ Agility 2 SSD | 2x 120GB WD1200JS (Raid 0) | 2x 1.5TB WD15EADS | {3x 2TB WD20EARS 1x 160GB ST3160023AS (DAS401)}

Sound: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE 7.1 (X-FI Drivers) | Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers

Case: Coolermaster CM690 Dominator Black

Monitor: 24" BENQ G2420HD | 19" Samsung SyncMaster 940BW

Mouse: Razer Deathadder Special Edition

Keyboard: Saitek Eclipse

Headset: Ozone Gaming Gear Attack

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#12
Posted 10/22/2010 03:20 PM   
[quote name='dracomd' post='1134824' date='Oct 21 2010, 11:25 PM'][url="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1125468-fix-for-white-pixelsspecksdots-nvidia-users/"]http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...s-nvidia-users/[/url]

That fix worked for me on a 480 GTX. Have been running it with 8x anti aliasing with no crashes. Testing with HDR in this session now, so far I've only gotten 1 crash.[/quote]

thanks that work for me...
[quote name='dracomd' post='1134824' date='Oct 21 2010, 11:25 PM']http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...s-nvidia-users/



That fix worked for me on a 480 GTX. Have been running it with 8x anti aliasing with no crashes. Testing with HDR in this session now, so far I've only gotten 1 crash.



thanks that work for me...

#13
Posted 10/22/2010 09:14 PM   
[quote name='dracomd' post='1134824' date='Oct 21 2010, 11:25 PM'][url="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1125468-fix-for-white-pixelsspecksdots-nvidia-users/"]http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...s-nvidia-users/[/url]

That fix worked for me on a 480 GTX. Have been running it with 8x anti aliasing with no crashes. Testing with HDR in this session now, so far I've only gotten 1 crash.[/quote]

thanks that work for me...
[quote name='dracomd' post='1134824' date='Oct 21 2010, 11:25 PM']http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topi...s-nvidia-users/



That fix worked for me on a 480 GTX. Have been running it with 8x anti aliasing with no crashes. Testing with HDR in this session now, so far I've only gotten 1 crash.



thanks that work for me...

#14
Posted 10/22/2010 09:14 PM   
hey dracomd, id like to try out your fix but when i download and run nvidia inspector i dont have a "COMPATIBILITY" tab or option, seems to be missing. Any ideas?
hey dracomd, id like to try out your fix but when i download and run nvidia inspector i dont have a "COMPATIBILITY" tab or option, seems to be missing. Any ideas?

#15
Posted 10/23/2010 12:05 AM   
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