1 GTX 480 vs 2 GTX 280's in SLI
I currently own two evga GTX 280 cards, and I was considering selling them and buying one of these GTX 480 cards:
[url="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130551&cm_re=GTX_480%2d%5f%2d14-130-551%2d%5f%2dProduct"]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...0-551-_-Product[/url]

My question is will 1 GTX 480 outperform 2 GTX 280's, and can 1 GTX 480 properly run DX11 at smooth framrates.

Any advice would be helpful.


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I currently own two evga GTX 280 cards, and I was considering selling them and buying one of these GTX 480 cards:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...0-551-_-Product



My question is will 1 GTX 480 outperform 2 GTX 280's, and can 1 GTX 480 properly run DX11 at smooth framrates.



Any advice would be helpful.





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#1
Posted 05/17/2010 05:16 PM   
My answer is... It depends,

if you take Vantage as your weapon of choice, then the 2x280's win by a big margin, if you take Crysis then the 280's still come out on top [just]. If you take the Heaven benchmark DX11 then the 280's have to go and sit in other room until there ready to come out and say sorry...[b] and mean it[/b].

What I basically mean is the 480 can pretty much do what 2x280's do now, but when it comes to the future, the 280's don't even show up to the fight.

For more information.. [url="http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=167112&hl="]http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=167112&hl=[/url]

Hope this helps :).
My answer is... It depends,



if you take Vantage as your weapon of choice, then the 2x280's win by a big margin, if you take Crysis then the 280's still come out on top [just]. If you take the Heaven benchmark DX11 then the 280's have to go and sit in other room until there ready to come out and say sorry... and mean it.



What I basically mean is the 480 can pretty much do what 2x280's do now, but when it comes to the future, the 280's don't even show up to the fight.



For more information.. http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=167112&hl=



Hope this helps :).

#2
Posted 05/17/2010 07:44 PM   
The GTX480 is made especially for DX11 performance. Although it is approx. equal with SLI GTX280s in DX10 gaming performance, the GTX480 lets you take full advantage of the graphical bells and whistles of new games like Metro2033, Dirt 2 and BFBC2.
The GTX480 is made especially for DX11 performance. Although it is approx. equal with SLI GTX280s in DX10 gaming performance, the GTX480 lets you take full advantage of the graphical bells and whistles of new games like Metro2033, Dirt 2 and BFBC2.
These guys have given you the info you require to make a decision that will benifit you in your decision.

As Obone stated when it comes to Directx 11 the 200 series end up being benchwarmers. But in directx 10 and 9 games what you have now and the GTX 480 can duke it out. The GTX 480 is more future proof without a doubt.

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These guys have given you the info you require to make a decision that will benifit you in your decision.



As Obone stated when it comes to Directx 11 the 200 series end up being benchwarmers. But in directx 10 and 9 games what you have now and the GTX 480 can duke it out. The GTX 480 is more future proof without a doubt.



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#4
Posted 05/17/2010 09:28 PM   
Explain in detail what other whistles dose the DX11 show in BFBC2 useing a 400 series card that would want me to buy such a card thx's for what you can enlighten me abit ??..........CHEERS
Explain in detail what other whistles dose the DX11 show in BFBC2 useing a 400 series card that would want me to buy such a card thx's for what you can enlighten me abit ??..........CHEERS

#5
Posted 05/17/2010 09:45 PM   
Well, tbh, DX10 and DX11 in BFBC2 are almost totally identical... they didn't take full advantage of DX11...
[quote name='-{RaptoR}-' post='1057386' date='May 17 2010, 06:10 PM']Well, tbh, DX10 and DX11 in BFBC2 are almost totally identical... they didn't take full advantage of DX11...[/quote]
Thx's, and I guess MOH will have basicly the same support as BFBC2......I would hope it ( MOH ) will be the latest updates with Dx11 to get to use some of the features in the new cards performance.....CHEERS
[quote name='-{RaptoR}-' post='1057386' date='May 17 2010, 06:10 PM']Well, tbh, DX10 and DX11 in BFBC2 are almost totally identical... they didn't take full advantage of DX11...

Thx's, and I guess MOH will have basicly the same support as BFBC2......I would hope it ( MOH ) will be the latest updates with Dx11 to get to use some of the features in the new cards performance.....CHEERS

#7
Posted 05/18/2010 08:36 PM   
Only buy a 480 if you're seriously rich and have nothing better to do with your money, otherwise stick with the 280's, what's the point in future proofing, when the 480 will be like half the price in 6 months time, and even then you probably wont really need them.

Save your cash m8.
Only buy a 480 if you're seriously rich and have nothing better to do with your money, otherwise stick with the 280's, what's the point in future proofing, when the 480 will be like half the price in 6 months time, and even then you probably wont really need them.



Save your cash m8.

#8
Posted 05/30/2010 03:56 PM   
Sorry for the 2 replies a bit lagged.

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Sorry for the 2 replies a bit lagged.



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#9
Posted 05/30/2010 04:03 PM   
i see it like this - if you value your current 280sli fps more than you want dx11 features then don't upgrade - i'm in a similar situation and have gtx260sli and am waiting delivery of a gtx470 , for me the only real benefit i saw from sli was in benchmarks and crysis - well been there and done that as far as crysis is concerned and i want dx11 features more than i need the fps - as i said gtx470 is on the way i'm more than willing to sacrifice fps . i'll be using my 2 gtx260's to fund 2/3 of the cost of the 470 so the upgade wont hurt me to much in the pocket... ...
i see it like this - if you value your current 280sli fps more than you want dx11 features then don't upgrade - i'm in a similar situation and have gtx260sli and am waiting delivery of a gtx470 , for me the only real benefit i saw from sli was in benchmarks and crysis - well been there and done that as far as crysis is concerned and i want dx11 features more than i need the fps - as i said gtx470 is on the way i'm more than willing to sacrifice fps . i'll be using my 2 gtx260's to fund 2/3 of the cost of the 470 so the upgade wont hurt me to much in the pocket... ...

#10
Posted 05/30/2010 07:25 PM   
the OP has a q6600 at 2.4ghz which while currently bottenecking his SLI set up of gtx 280's, will also bottleneck a gtx 480. that needs to be sorted before any graphics cards updates.
the OP has a q6600 at 2.4ghz which while currently bottenecking his SLI set up of gtx 280's, will also bottleneck a gtx 480. that needs to be sorted before any graphics cards updates.

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#11
Posted 05/30/2010 08:08 PM   
While GTX480 have DX11 support, playing DX11 game with full details is not what i called smooth play, for that you need second GTX480 and before DX11 will be fully utilized, there will be new cards around.
From what i tested and seen (got GTX480 for a week), its not worth it. Only plus for me was that you dont need to wait for SLI support with single gpu card to enjoy full graphic card power, since sometimes it took few days before nvidia released driver with more SLI profiles for new games.
While GTX480 have DX11 support, playing DX11 game with full details is not what i called smooth play, for that you need second GTX480 and before DX11 will be fully utilized, there will be new cards around.

From what i tested and seen (got GTX480 for a week), its not worth it. Only plus for me was that you dont need to wait for SLI support with single gpu card to enjoy full graphic card power, since sometimes it took few days before nvidia released driver with more SLI profiles for new games.

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#12
Posted 05/30/2010 09:39 PM   
Huh. A single GTX 480 handled Battlefield Bad Company 2 at 1920x1200 16xAF [b]32xAA[/b] for me. And that was before the 257.15 driver improved its performance on that title. I didn't play the whole game, and I wasn't trying out multiplayer, but I never noticed any terribly sluggishness.

It runs DiRT2 just fine. Really, the only DX11 game that this thing doesn't chew through is Metro 2033, which is the DX11 equivalent of Crysis.

Typically NVIDIA has profiles before the game even launches. It's also pretty typical for AFR to just work. It's actually ATI that tends to lag behind with CrossFire profiles, and CrossFire tends to scale negatively (i.e. 1 ATI GPU offers better performance than 2 ATI GPUs in CrossFire) without the profile.

OP, there are plenty of reasons to take a single GTX 480 over a pair of GTX 280s. So it comes down to what you use your GPUs for, and what you want to do. If DX11 gaming isn't a high priority for you, you might consider investing in upgrades for the rest of your system, which should improve your current GPU's performance, if only a little. If DX11 gaming is a big deal for you, a single GTX 480 may be somewhat bottlenecked on your system but it's still going to work. Increasing AA and AF goes plenty far to keep your GPU fully utilized anyway.


Amorphous

[quote name='spajdr' post='1064963' date='May 30 2010, 02:39 PM']While GTX480 have DX11 support, playing DX11 game with full details is not what i called smooth play, for that you need second GTX480 and before DX11 will be fully utilized, there will be new cards around.
From what i tested and seen (got GTX480 for a week), its not worth it. Only plus for me was that you dont need to wait for SLI support with single gpu card to enjoy full graphic card power, since sometimes it took few days before nvidia released driver with more SLI profiles for new games.[/quote]
Huh. A single GTX 480 handled Battlefield Bad Company 2 at 1920x1200 16xAF 32xAA for me. And that was before the 257.15 driver improved its performance on that title. I didn't play the whole game, and I wasn't trying out multiplayer, but I never noticed any terribly sluggishness.



It runs DiRT2 just fine. Really, the only DX11 game that this thing doesn't chew through is Metro 2033, which is the DX11 equivalent of Crysis.



Typically NVIDIA has profiles before the game even launches. It's also pretty typical for AFR to just work. It's actually ATI that tends to lag behind with CrossFire profiles, and CrossFire tends to scale negatively (i.e. 1 ATI GPU offers better performance than 2 ATI GPUs in CrossFire) without the profile.



OP, there are plenty of reasons to take a single GTX 480 over a pair of GTX 280s. So it comes down to what you use your GPUs for, and what you want to do. If DX11 gaming isn't a high priority for you, you might consider investing in upgrades for the rest of your system, which should improve your current GPU's performance, if only a little. If DX11 gaming is a big deal for you, a single GTX 480 may be somewhat bottlenecked on your system but it's still going to work. Increasing AA and AF goes plenty far to keep your GPU fully utilized anyway.





Amorphous



[quote name='spajdr' post='1064963' date='May 30 2010, 02:39 PM']While GTX480 have DX11 support, playing DX11 game with full details is not what i called smooth play, for that you need second GTX480 and before DX11 will be fully utilized, there will be new cards around.

From what i tested and seen (got GTX480 for a week), its not worth it. Only plus for me was that you dont need to wait for SLI support with single gpu card to enjoy full graphic card power, since sometimes it took few days before nvidia released driver with more SLI profiles for new games.

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#13
Posted 05/31/2010 10:19 AM   
[quote name='Amorphous' post='1065183' date='May 31 2010, 06:19 PM']Huh. A single GTX 480 handled Battlefield Bad Company 2 at 1920x1200 16xAF [b]32xAA[/b] for me. And that was before the 257.15 driver improved its performance on that title. I didn't play the whole game, and I wasn't trying out multiplayer, but I never noticed any terribly sluggishness.

It runs DiRT2 just fine. Really, the only DX11 game that this thing doesn't chew through is Metro 2033, which is the DX11 equivalent of Crysis.

Typically NVIDIA has profiles before the game even launches. It's also pretty typical for AFR to just work. It's actually ATI that tends to lag behind with CrossFire profiles, and CrossFire tends to scale negatively (i.e. 1 ATI GPU offers better performance than 2 ATI GPUs in CrossFire) without the profile.

OP, there are plenty of reasons to take a single GTX 480 over a pair of GTX 280s. So it comes down to what you use your GPUs for, and what you want to do. If DX11 gaming isn't a high priority for you, you might consider investing in upgrades for the rest of your system, which should improve your current GPU's performance, if only a little. If DX11 gaming is a big deal for you, a single GTX 480 may be somewhat bottlenecked on your system but it's still going to work. Increasing AA and AF goes plenty far to keep your GPU fully utilized anyway.


Amorphous[/quote]

This is for BFBC
I moved to 480 from a 5870 and noticed degrade in performance for 1920x1200 in high settings AAx1 AFx1. On a normal scene, I would say 5870 is better than the 480. Some stuttering is noticed with 480. Although 480 is much better than 5870 in heavy battle scenes and in x8 x16. Running 5870 during both that scenarios is close to annoying. With 480, game loads much slower as opposed to 5870's 5-7 secs load time. Switching to DX10 resolves that. Can I know what did you do to get smooth game-play for 1920x1200 16xAF 32xAA?

*edit: A slight OC solved the problem lol. I love this card.
[quote name='Amorphous' post='1065183' date='May 31 2010, 06:19 PM']Huh. A single GTX 480 handled Battlefield Bad Company 2 at 1920x1200 16xAF 32xAA for me. And that was before the 257.15 driver improved its performance on that title. I didn't play the whole game, and I wasn't trying out multiplayer, but I never noticed any terribly sluggishness.



It runs DiRT2 just fine. Really, the only DX11 game that this thing doesn't chew through is Metro 2033, which is the DX11 equivalent of Crysis.



Typically NVIDIA has profiles before the game even launches. It's also pretty typical for AFR to just work. It's actually ATI that tends to lag behind with CrossFire profiles, and CrossFire tends to scale negatively (i.e. 1 ATI GPU offers better performance than 2 ATI GPUs in CrossFire) without the profile.



OP, there are plenty of reasons to take a single GTX 480 over a pair of GTX 280s. So it comes down to what you use your GPUs for, and what you want to do. If DX11 gaming isn't a high priority for you, you might consider investing in upgrades for the rest of your system, which should improve your current GPU's performance, if only a little. If DX11 gaming is a big deal for you, a single GTX 480 may be somewhat bottlenecked on your system but it's still going to work. Increasing AA and AF goes plenty far to keep your GPU fully utilized anyway.





Amorphous



This is for BFBC

I moved to 480 from a 5870 and noticed degrade in performance for 1920x1200 in high settings AAx1 AFx1. On a normal scene, I would say 5870 is better than the 480. Some stuttering is noticed with 480. Although 480 is much better than 5870 in heavy battle scenes and in x8 x16. Running 5870 during both that scenarios is close to annoying. With 480, game loads much slower as opposed to 5870's 5-7 secs load time. Switching to DX10 resolves that. Can I know what did you do to get smooth game-play for 1920x1200 16xAF 32xAA?



*edit: A slight OC solved the problem lol. I love this card.

#14
Posted 06/14/2010 03:40 AM   
I have three GTX280's, purchased about 18 months ago, and I'd intended (hoped!) to use them for at least two years without feeling the need to upgrade. So far so good.

I just played Metro and Call of Prypiat, both at 2560x1600 with everything as maxed out as I could figure out how to tweak, and they were perfectly smooth at all times. I looks like I will make it to the 24 month goal easily enough. (Not concerned about DX11 just yet.)

With the way PC games are going, I hope it's still worth buying big GPU's in the future! (Right after Prypiat, I installed Singularity and wanted to stab myself in the face within 15 minutes... Nintendo anyone? Ugh.)

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I have three GTX280's, purchased about 18 months ago, and I'd intended (hoped!) to use them for at least two years without feeling the need to upgrade. So far so good.



I just played Metro and Call of Prypiat, both at 2560x1600 with everything as maxed out as I could figure out how to tweak, and they were perfectly smooth at all times. I looks like I will make it to the 24 month goal easily enough. (Not concerned about DX11 just yet.)



With the way PC games are going, I hope it's still worth buying big GPU's in the future! (Right after Prypiat, I installed Singularity and wanted to stab myself in the face within 15 minutes... Nintendo anyone? Ugh.)



-Doc

#15
Posted 08/06/2010 03:53 PM   
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