Geforce4 mx440 and windows 7
Ok ok, I know a lot of you are screaming at me to get a new graphics card, but its for a PC that's intended just for internet use and not for intensive games playing.

Its a HP Pavilion 750n, 2.4GHZ Pentium 4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Geforce mx440, which is in sore need of a new windows OS.
As said, its intended just for internet use, not gaming. I know you may think I should just stick to XP, but I want to take advantage of this 50% discount deal, so why not futureproof the PC for a few more years with this new OS?

Anyhow, after googling, I hear there's a few success stories, and that windows aero can even work, but by downloading a certain driver? All I know is that the latest drivers for mx440 results in a BSOD.

Just want to get general opinion from you guys.
Ok ok, I know a lot of you are screaming at me to get a new graphics card, but its for a PC that's intended just for internet use and not for intensive games playing.



Its a HP Pavilion 750n, 2.4GHZ Pentium 4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Geforce mx440, which is in sore need of a new windows OS.

As said, its intended just for internet use, not gaming. I know you may think I should just stick to XP, but I want to take advantage of this 50% discount deal, so why not futureproof the PC for a few more years with this new OS?



Anyhow, after googling, I hear there's a few success stories, and that windows aero can even work, but by downloading a certain driver? All I know is that the latest drivers for mx440 results in a BSOD.



Just want to get general opinion from you guys.

#1
Posted 09/02/2009 11:25 PM   
[quote name='vindicta' post='584829' date='Sep 3 2009, 12:25 AM']Ok ok, I know a lot of you are screaming at me to get a new graphics card, but its for a PC that's intended just for internet use and not for intensive games playing.

Its a HP Pavilion 750n, 2.4GHZ Pentium 4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Geforce mx440, which is in sore need of a new windows OS.
As said, its intended just for internet use, not gaming. I know you may think I should just stick to XP, but I want to take advantage of this 50% discount deal, so why not futureproof the PC for a few more years with this new OS?

Anyhow, after googling, I hear there's a few success stories, and that windows aero can even work, but by downloading a certain driver? All I know is that the latest drivers for mx440 results in a BSOD.

Just want to get general opinion from you guys.[/quote]
General opinion , get a new card , dont even think of running windows 7 on an MX 44O , it just wont happen mate /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' /> .
The mx was a poor card even in its day , I know I had one when I started years ago , do yourself a favor and spend 30 or 40 quid on somthing a bit more up to date . you can still get 7 series AGP cards for next to nothing these days /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />
[quote name='vindicta' post='584829' date='Sep 3 2009, 12:25 AM']Ok ok, I know a lot of you are screaming at me to get a new graphics card, but its for a PC that's intended just for internet use and not for intensive games playing.



Its a HP Pavilion 750n, 2.4GHZ Pentium 4, 1GB RAM, 128MB Geforce mx440, which is in sore need of a new windows OS.

As said, its intended just for internet use, not gaming. I know you may think I should just stick to XP, but I want to take advantage of this 50% discount deal, so why not futureproof the PC for a few more years with this new OS?



Anyhow, after googling, I hear there's a few success stories, and that windows aero can even work, but by downloading a certain driver? All I know is that the latest drivers for mx440 results in a BSOD.



Just want to get general opinion from you guys.

General opinion , get a new card , dont even think of running windows 7 on an MX 44O , it just wont happen mate /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' /> .

The mx was a poor card even in its day , I know I had one when I started years ago , do yourself a favor and spend 30 or 40 quid on somthing a bit more up to date . you can still get 7 series AGP cards for next to nothing these days /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />

#2
Posted 09/03/2009 12:37 AM   
Tossing Windows 7 on that machine is a bit of a waste. You will want another GB of RAM at least and a dualcore CPU. With that system, XP is your best bet of a stable fast running OS. Windows 7 is marginally more resourceful than Vista. I went from 1.4GB of RAM at idle in Vista to 1.2GB in W7. Now, that's on my quadcore desktop with 8GB of RAM. I saw almost no performance difference. You really think that 2.4 single core P4 and 1GB of RAM are going to handle Windows 7?
Tossing Windows 7 on that machine is a bit of a waste. You will want another GB of RAM at least and a dualcore CPU. With that system, XP is your best bet of a stable fast running OS. Windows 7 is marginally more resourceful than Vista. I went from 1.4GB of RAM at idle in Vista to 1.2GB in W7. Now, that's on my quadcore desktop with 8GB of RAM. I saw almost no performance difference. You really think that 2.4 single core P4 and 1GB of RAM are going to handle Windows 7?

#3
Posted 09/03/2009 11:54 AM   
I do think so, because its working right now. (smiles).
I do think so, because its working right now. (smiles).

#4
Posted 10/22/2009 07:27 PM   
I have Windows 7 Professional running on a
DELL Optiplex GX270 (Small Form Factor)
Intel P4 3Ghz/1M/800 P4 (HT)
1GB DDR, 40GB HDD
nVidia MX440 (64MB)

The MX440 will run with the Standard VGA Graphics Adapter from Windows 7
The MX440 with BSD with the drivers for Windows XP
No Vista nor W7 drivers have been found that work...yet.

After running this system in our office for a few days I have come to the conclusion:

Even with the native Standard VGA drivers, this computer runs pretty admirably. It runs even faster than many dual core, 2GB Vista machines. W7 has seriously been optimized. That's really awesome! But that being said, Manufactures must have decided to put a cap on what hardware they wanted to work on W7. I suspect, manufactures found W7 to work very well with systems that are over 5 years old, and that is scary for profits. They must have put a cap on what they wanted to work in W7 and that is why we aren't finding optimized video drivers for something like an MX440.

Performance is impressive; I can view my Slingmedia Slingplayer with little CPU usage (Web version useless less CPU). No apparent lag using standard web apps and services. Memory usage averages about 650MB, with startup at about 350MB. This inlcudes security software and MSOffice 2007 (aka MSO2K7).

Windows Experience Index shows:
Processor: 3.9
Memory: 4.4
Graphics: 1.0
Gaming graphics: 1.0
Primary hard disk: 5.3

That's outstanding for a system from 2005.

I hope MS doesn't do anything that will degrade performance on older systems. I like what they have done here.

UPDATE: 200910240608
Using the recommended drivers found to work in Vista by contributors at AeroXperience (http://www.aeroxp.org/board/lofiversion/index.php?t39.html), I was able to increase the Graphics score to 1.9, no BSD and am experiencing way better video graphics on games and video demanding processes.

Don't get me wrong, it would probably be many times better to upgrade the graphics card, but for the general PC user, this is impressive.
I have Windows 7 Professional running on a

DELL Optiplex GX270 (Small Form Factor)

Intel P4 3Ghz/1M/800 P4 (HT)

1GB DDR, 40GB HDD

nVidia MX440 (64MB)



The MX440 will run with the Standard VGA Graphics Adapter from Windows 7

The MX440 with BSD with the drivers for Windows XP

No Vista nor W7 drivers have been found that work...yet.



After running this system in our office for a few days I have come to the conclusion:



Even with the native Standard VGA drivers, this computer runs pretty admirably. It runs even faster than many dual core, 2GB Vista machines. W7 has seriously been optimized. That's really awesome! But that being said, Manufactures must have decided to put a cap on what hardware they wanted to work on W7. I suspect, manufactures found W7 to work very well with systems that are over 5 years old, and that is scary for profits. They must have put a cap on what they wanted to work in W7 and that is why we aren't finding optimized video drivers for something like an MX440.



Performance is impressive; I can view my Slingmedia Slingplayer with little CPU usage (Web version useless less CPU). No apparent lag using standard web apps and services. Memory usage averages about 650MB, with startup at about 350MB. This inlcudes security software and MSOffice 2007 (aka MSO2K7).



Windows Experience Index shows:

Processor: 3.9

Memory: 4.4

Graphics: 1.0

Gaming graphics: 1.0

Primary hard disk: 5.3



That's outstanding for a system from 2005.



I hope MS doesn't do anything that will degrade performance on older systems. I like what they have done here.



UPDATE: 200910240608

Using the recommended drivers found to work in Vista by contributors at AeroXperience (http://www.aeroxp.org/board/lofiversion/index.php?t39.html), I was able to increase the Graphics score to 1.9, no BSD and am experiencing way better video graphics on games and video demanding processes.



Don't get me wrong, it would probably be many times better to upgrade the graphics card, but for the general PC user, this is impressive.

#5
Posted 10/24/2009 10:54 AM   
Xp drivers for the mx440 can be run under windows 7 using the xp compatibility mode. I used xp service pac 2 compatibility. For good measure I also ran them as admin. Just right click the install file, choose properties and then go to the compatibility tab.
Xp drivers for the mx440 can be run under windows 7 using the xp compatibility mode. I used xp service pac 2 compatibility. For good measure I also ran them as admin. Just right click the install file, choose properties and then go to the compatibility tab.

#6
Posted 01/15/2012 12:24 AM   
Xp drivers for the mx440 can be run under windows 7 using the xp compatibility mode. I used xp service pac 2 compatibility. For good measure I also ran them as admin. Just right click the install file, choose properties and then go to the compatibility tab.
Xp drivers for the mx440 can be run under windows 7 using the xp compatibility mode. I used xp service pac 2 compatibility. For good measure I also ran them as admin. Just right click the install file, choose properties and then go to the compatibility tab.

#7
Posted 01/15/2012 12:24 AM   
could someone please post a new link to the contributed drivers from AeroXperience or post the drivers here? pls
could someone please post a new link to the contributed drivers from AeroXperience or post the drivers here? pls

#8
Posted 01/25/2012 10:34 PM   
[quote name='Hexen525' date='03 September 2009 - 07:54 AM' timestamp='1251978892' post='584953']
Tossing Windows 7 on that machine is a bit of a waste. You will want another GB of RAM at least and a dualcore CPU. With that system, XP is your best bet of a stable fast running OS. Windows 7 is marginally more resourceful than Vista. I went from 1.4GB of RAM at idle in Vista to 1.2GB in W7. Now, that's on my quadcore desktop with 8GB of RAM. I saw almost no performance difference. You really think that 2.4 single core P4 and 1GB of RAM are going to handle Windows 7?
[/quote]

But the problem is that windows xp lose all support from mirosoft by 2014 and after a little while the ones who make Security Software Products will also stop too.I do have windows xp professional but I am trying windows 8 out right now.
[quote name='Hexen525' date='03 September 2009 - 07:54 AM' timestamp='1251978892' post='584953']

Tossing Windows 7 on that machine is a bit of a waste. You will want another GB of RAM at least and a dualcore CPU. With that system, XP is your best bet of a stable fast running OS. Windows 7 is marginally more resourceful than Vista. I went from 1.4GB of RAM at idle in Vista to 1.2GB in W7. Now, that's on my quadcore desktop with 8GB of RAM. I saw almost no performance difference. You really think that 2.4 single core P4 and 1GB of RAM are going to handle Windows 7?





But the problem is that windows xp lose all support from mirosoft by 2014 and after a little while the ones who make Security Software Products will also stop too.I do have windows xp professional but I am trying windows 8 out right now.

#9
Posted 04/15/2012 08:17 PM   
[quote name='Vorless DarkChaos' date='15 April 2012 - 04:17 PM' timestamp='1334521067' post='1396769']But the problem is that windows xp lose all support from mirosoft by 2014 and after a little while the ones who make Security Software Products will also stop too.
[/quote]

XP support should have ended long ago, but it didn't, because most of the world still uses it (including me). Should we be worried that support ends in two years? Not really. The OS is solid, and security software is unneeded when you follow best practices.
[quote name='Vorless DarkChaos' date='15 April 2012 - 04:17 PM' timestamp='1334521067' post='1396769']But the problem is that windows xp lose all support from mirosoft by 2014 and after a little while the ones who make Security Software Products will also stop too.





XP support should have ended long ago, but it didn't, because most of the world still uses it (including me). Should we be worried that support ends in two years? Not really. The OS is solid, and security software is unneeded when you follow best practices.

"This is your code. These are also your bugs. Really. Yes, the API runtime and the
driver have bugs, but this is not one of them. Now go fix it already." -fgiesen

#10
Posted 04/15/2012 11:09 PM   
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