Win7+WoW - long delay after alt-tab
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Hello. Recently I've installed Windows 7 RC1 (build 7100, 64 bit). I have issue when playing World of Warcraft. I have to wait up to 10 seconds after alt-tab TO the game. I have no issues on alt-tabbing out of the game, it happens instantly. But when I alt-tab to the game I am getting a small black rectangle on the top left corner of the screen, which vanishes between 3 and 10 seconds and then it resumes the game. This happened on graphic drivers v185.85 for Win7 x64. I've updated them to 186.18 and the issue went even worse instead of being fixed, I have to wait around 20-30 seconds to get back in the game. The only solution is to play the game on windowed mode, but this reduces my fps by around 10. Blizzard's support said: "It's not something Blizzard can help with, best to speak to Nvidia / Microsoft in this case."

Here are my PC specs:
-CPU: C2D E8400 @ 3.0GHz
-4GB RAM
-Video: Gigabyte GeForce 9600GT

I am running the game on almost max details - with turned off Specular Lightning, low on Shadow Quality and Player Textures. Resolution 1680x1050, turned off vsync. Nvidia control panel's options are set to default.
Hello. Recently I've installed Windows 7 RC1 (build 7100, 64 bit). I have issue when playing World of Warcraft. I have to wait up to 10 seconds after alt-tab TO the game. I have no issues on alt-tabbing out of the game, it happens instantly. But when I alt-tab to the game I am getting a small black rectangle on the top left corner of the screen, which vanishes between 3 and 10 seconds and then it resumes the game. This happened on graphic drivers v185.85 for Win7 x64. I've updated them to 186.18 and the issue went even worse instead of being fixed, I have to wait around 20-30 seconds to get back in the game. The only solution is to play the game on windowed mode, but this reduces my fps by around 10. Blizzard's support said: "It's not something Blizzard can help with, best to speak to Nvidia / Microsoft in this case."



Here are my PC specs:

-CPU: C2D E8400 @ 3.0GHz

-4GB RAM

-Video: Gigabyte GeForce 9600GT



I am running the game on almost max details - with turned off Specular Lightning, low on Shadow Quality and Player Textures. Resolution 1680x1050, turned off vsync. Nvidia control panel's options are set to default.

#1
Posted 06/18/2009 10:37 PM   
[quote name='nitrovt' post='554385' date='Jun 19 2009, 01:37 AM']Hello. Recently I've installed Windows 7 RC1 (build 7100, 64 bit). I have issue when playing World of Warcraft. I have to wait up to 10 seconds after alt-tab TO the game. I have no issues on alt-tabbing out of the game, it happens instantly. But when I alt-tab to the game I am getting a small black rectangle on the top left corner of the screen, which vanishes between 3 and 10 seconds and then it resumes the game. This happened on graphic drivers v185.85 for Win7 x64. I've updated them to 186.18 and the issue went even worse instead of being fixed, I have to wait around 20-30 seconds to get back in the game. The only solution is to play the game on windowed mode, but this reduces my fps by around 10. Blizzard's support said: "It's not something Blizzard can help with, best to speak to Nvidia / Microsoft in this case."

Here are my PC specs:
-CPU: C2D E8400 @ 3.0GHz
-4GB RAM
-Video: Gigabyte GeForce 9600GT

I am running the game on almost max details - with turned off Specular Lightning, low on Shadow Quality and Player Textures. Resolution 1680x1050, turned off vsync. Nvidia control panel's options are set to default.[/quote]


I have same problem with 185 and 186, the only one working is 181.71. Using w7 64 7100RC aswell.

PC specs:

CPU q9550 @3400
4 GB ram ddr3 1600
gtx 295 (using single gpu mode for wow)

Also noticed with 186, sometimes after I close some program while wow running in the back, instantly throw the game window up but with normal mouse cursor - 1 click and I'm back into desktop. Not playing windowed mode, so this behaviour is strange.

On the bright side, fps seems to be a bit better.
[quote name='nitrovt' post='554385' date='Jun 19 2009, 01:37 AM']Hello. Recently I've installed Windows 7 RC1 (build 7100, 64 bit). I have issue when playing World of Warcraft. I have to wait up to 10 seconds after alt-tab TO the game. I have no issues on alt-tabbing out of the game, it happens instantly. But when I alt-tab to the game I am getting a small black rectangle on the top left corner of the screen, which vanishes between 3 and 10 seconds and then it resumes the game. This happened on graphic drivers v185.85 for Win7 x64. I've updated them to 186.18 and the issue went even worse instead of being fixed, I have to wait around 20-30 seconds to get back in the game. The only solution is to play the game on windowed mode, but this reduces my fps by around 10. Blizzard's support said: "It's not something Blizzard can help with, best to speak to Nvidia / Microsoft in this case."



Here are my PC specs:

-CPU: C2D E8400 @ 3.0GHz

-4GB RAM

-Video: Gigabyte GeForce 9600GT



I am running the game on almost max details - with turned off Specular Lightning, low on Shadow Quality and Player Textures. Resolution 1680x1050, turned off vsync. Nvidia control panel's options are set to default.





I have same problem with 185 and 186, the only one working is 181.71. Using w7 64 7100RC aswell.



PC specs:



CPU q9550 @3400

4 GB ram ddr3 1600

gtx 295 (using single gpu mode for wow)



Also noticed with 186, sometimes after I close some program while wow running in the back, instantly throw the game window up but with normal mouse cursor - 1 click and I'm back into desktop. Not playing windowed mode, so this behaviour is strange.



On the bright side, fps seems to be a bit better.

#2
Posted 06/19/2009 08:22 AM   
I have downgraded to v181 of the drivers which have fixed the issue. However now the fps is crap - 10 less on average :(
I have downgraded to v181 of the drivers which have fixed the issue. However now the fps is crap - 10 less on average :(

#3
Posted 06/19/2009 01:37 PM   
win7 sux,xp ftw /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />
win7 sux,xp ftw /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />

#4
Posted 06/20/2009 01:34 PM   
[quote name='Impheatus' post='555139' date='Jun 20 2009, 08:34 AM']win7 sux,xp ftw /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />[/quote]


Seriously is that the best piece of advice you can offer this user?


OP it's a known problem. It's corrected with the latest whql set 186.18

[url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_32bit_186.18_whql.html"]Nvidia/driver dl.com[/url]
[quote name='Impheatus' post='555139' date='Jun 20 2009, 08:34 AM']win7 sux,xp ftw /thumbup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbup:' />





Seriously is that the best piece of advice you can offer this user?





OP it's a known problem. It's corrected with the latest whql set 186.18



Nvidia/driver dl.com

Would you like SLI Support for your game?

nvidia.com_sli_request_form

Nvidia_SLI_Profile_Update#7_2011.03.01

#5
Posted 06/20/2009 04:52 PM   
[quote name='bobmillers123' post='555244' date='Jun 20 2009, 04:52 PM']Seriously is that the best piece of advice you can offer this user?


OP it's a known problem. It's corrected with the latest whql set 186.18

[url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_32bit_186.18_whql.html"]Nvidia/driver dl.com[/url][/quote]
As I've said before: I've updated them to 186.18 and the issue went even worse instead of being fixed, I have to wait around 20-30 seconds to get back in the game.
[quote name='bobmillers123' post='555244' date='Jun 20 2009, 04:52 PM']Seriously is that the best piece of advice you can offer this user?





OP it's a known problem. It's corrected with the latest whql set 186.18



Nvidia/driver dl.com

As I've said before: I've updated them to 186.18 and the issue went even worse instead of being fixed, I have to wait around 20-30 seconds to get back in the game.

#6
Posted 06/20/2009 09:07 PM   
[quote name='bobmillers123' post='555244' date='Jun 20 2009, 06:52 PM']Seriously is that the best piece of advice you can offer this user?


OP it's a known problem. It's corrected with the latest whql set 186.18

[url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_32bit_186.18_whql.html"]Nvidia/driver dl.com[/url][/quote]
yes actually,Vista and Win7 use a different task switcher,a more complicated one which slows down alt+tab time.
[quote name='bobmillers123' post='555244' date='Jun 20 2009, 06:52 PM']Seriously is that the best piece of advice you can offer this user?





OP it's a known problem. It's corrected with the latest whql set 186.18



Nvidia/driver dl.com

yes actually,Vista and Win7 use a different task switcher,a more complicated one which slows down alt+tab time.

#7
Posted 06/21/2009 09:18 AM   
[quote name='Impheatus' post='555524' date='Jun 21 2009, 04:18 AM']yes actually,Vista and Win7 use a different task switcher,a more complicated one which slows down alt+tab time.[/quote]


Well, I guess that speaks volumes for you and your advice. Because I can confidently say it doesn't happen with Vista64. Not once in two years.

Considering I use all three operating systems Vista and 7 shared boot. XP on two other machines. I have noticed it on 7. Was fixed with last drivers.

And while an 8 year old operating system is best teamed up with a 6 year old processor.
Times change like it or not. It's called progress. Without it you may have never have evolved.


OP try here. And we talking about win7/32 or win7/64?

[url="http://windows7forums.com/"]Windows7 forum.com[/url]
or here
[url="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default.aspx"]m$/win7.com[/url]

I'll be booting Win7/64 this week full time. I may know more by weeks end. If you come across a solution, please post it!
[quote name='Impheatus' post='555524' date='Jun 21 2009, 04:18 AM']yes actually,Vista and Win7 use a different task switcher,a more complicated one which slows down alt+tab time.





Well, I guess that speaks volumes for you and your advice. Because I can confidently say it doesn't happen with Vista64. Not once in two years.



Considering I use all three operating systems Vista and 7 shared boot. XP on two other machines. I have noticed it on 7. Was fixed with last drivers.



And while an 8 year old operating system is best teamed up with a 6 year old processor.

Times change like it or not. It's called progress. Without it you may have never have evolved.





OP try here. And we talking about win7/32 or win7/64?



Windows7 forum.com

or here

m$/win7.com



I'll be booting Win7/64 this week full time. I may know more by weeks end. If you come across a solution, please post it!

Would you like SLI Support for your game?

nvidia.com_sli_request_form

Nvidia_SLI_Profile_Update#7_2011.03.01

#8
Posted 06/21/2009 03:00 PM   
[quote name='bobmillers123' post='555611' date='Jun 21 2009, 05:00 PM']Well, I guess that speaks volumes for you and your advice. Because I can confidently say it doesn't happen with Vista64. Not once in two years.

Considering I use all three operating systems Vista and 7 shared boot. XP on two other machines. I have noticed it on 7. Was fixed with last drivers.

And while an 8 year old operating system is best teamed up with a 6 year old processor.
Times change like it or not. It's called progress. Without it you may have never have evolved.


OP try here. And we talking about win7/32 or win7/64?

[url="http://windows7forums.com/"]Windows7 forum.com[/url]
or here
[url="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default.aspx"]m$/win7.com[/url]

I'll be booting Win7/64 this week full time. I may know more by weeks end. If you come across a solution, please post it![/quote]
an 8 year old OS is best teamed with all current hardware,even if you dont watch the performance improvement with the XP,everything is made better than then new OSes,its just classic like CS is better than BioShock...
[quote name='bobmillers123' post='555611' date='Jun 21 2009, 05:00 PM']Well, I guess that speaks volumes for you and your advice. Because I can confidently say it doesn't happen with Vista64. Not once in two years.



Considering I use all three operating systems Vista and 7 shared boot. XP on two other machines. I have noticed it on 7. Was fixed with last drivers.



And while an 8 year old operating system is best teamed up with a 6 year old processor.

Times change like it or not. It's called progress. Without it you may have never have evolved.





OP try here. And we talking about win7/32 or win7/64?



Windows7 forum.com

or here

m$/win7.com



I'll be booting Win7/64 this week full time. I may know more by weeks end. If you come across a solution, please post it!

an 8 year old OS is best teamed with all current hardware,even if you dont watch the performance improvement with the XP,everything is made better than then new OSes,its just classic like CS is better than BioShock...

#9
Posted 06/21/2009 07:47 PM   
Ive only notice this problem with the newest driver 186.18. Using windows 7 64 bit, had no problems with the previous driver, but with 186 alt tabbing is ultra slow 9 out of 10 times. I never had this problem before 186.
Ive only notice this problem with the newest driver 186.18. Using windows 7 64 bit, had no problems with the previous driver, but with 186 alt tabbing is ultra slow 9 out of 10 times. I never had this problem before 186.

#10
Posted 06/23/2009 05:55 PM   
I too noticed this problem with the latest 186.18 drivers. I am running Vista 64. It took about 15 seconds to switch back to WoW after alt tabbing. I decided to revert back to the old 185.85 (which doesn't have this problem) drivers until Nvidia releases a driver that doesn't have this issue.
I too noticed this problem with the latest 186.18 drivers. I am running Vista 64. It took about 15 seconds to switch back to WoW after alt tabbing. I decided to revert back to the old 185.85 (which doesn't have this problem) drivers until Nvidia releases a driver that doesn't have this issue.

#11
Posted 06/23/2009 08:29 PM   
try older drivers instead of newer ones. I installed Vista geForce drivers on Win7 so you might try that as well.
try older drivers instead of newer ones. I installed Vista geForce drivers on Win7 so you might try that as well.

#12
Posted 06/27/2009 01:24 AM   
I too have this problem after updating to recent 186.18.

I run in vista 32 bit, some games that affect me are

world of warcraft
warcraft 3
heroes of newerth
I too have this problem after updating to recent 186.18.



I run in vista 32 bit, some games that affect me are



world of warcraft

warcraft 3

heroes of newerth

#13
Posted 07/01/2009 04:38 PM   
I've been running Vista 64 for a while now, this is the very FIRST time I've had this very same problem with a long delay in TAB back inside my game. And yes, this has happened since I've updated to 186.18 not before, when I was running 181. So no, it's not corrected one bit with latest drivers, it's made even worse with latest drivers.

So yes, all in all, we can be sure that the latest drive is causing serious delays regarding TABBING operations.
I've been running Vista 64 for a while now, this is the very FIRST time I've had this very same problem with a long delay in TAB back inside my game. And yes, this has happened since I've updated to 186.18 not before, when I was running 181. So no, it's not corrected one bit with latest drivers, it's made even worse with latest drivers.



So yes, all in all, we can be sure that the latest drive is causing serious delays regarding TABBING operations.

#14
Posted 07/02/2009 04:56 AM   
To add to this, I've just done a total uninstall, rebooted in safemode, I driversweep the entire set of NVIDIA entries, everything whiped out. Reinstalled latest driver... went back in my game and... guess what? Same -exact- problem, there's no doubt that 186.18 is buggy and I would advise people not to use that version.
To add to this, I've just done a total uninstall, rebooted in safemode, I driversweep the entire set of NVIDIA entries, everything whiped out. Reinstalled latest driver... went back in my game and... guess what? Same -exact- problem, there's no doubt that 186.18 is buggy and I would advise people not to use that version.

#15
Posted 07/02/2009 05:53 AM   
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