the gts 250 512mb
is the gts 250 any good? I found a sweet msi one with good cooling and all on newegg for only 100$. That seems really cheap for a video card that came out a week ago.
is the gts 250 any good? I found a sweet msi one with good cooling and all on newegg for only 100$. That seems really cheap for a video card that came out a week ago.

#1
Posted 03/20/2009 11:21 AM   
As far as I know, it is the 9800GTX+ renamed for the new naming scheme.
As far as I know, it is the 9800GTX+ renamed for the new naming scheme.

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#2
Posted 03/20/2009 11:43 AM   
Yes its basically a 9800GTX+ (G92-55nm) but on a shorter PCB board. Before the new branding some manufacturers designed a shorter custom board (9inch long) for the 9800GTX+ and was very popular so to differentiate between the original reference board (11inch long) and the new shorter board they decided to rename it. In my opinion is and excellent performance card and with 1Gb memory models released it will surpass the GTX260 with better cooling, less power consumption, cheaper to make and fits in most cases with ease.

[url="http://www.inno3d.com/products/graphic_card/gtx200/gts250.html"]http://www.inno3d.com/products/graphic_car...200/gts250.html[/url]

[url="http://www.palit.biz/main/vgapro.php?id=1109"]http://www.palit.biz/main/vgapro.php?id=1109[/url]

Here is a good review:

[url="http://techreport.com/articles.x/16504"]http://techreport.com/articles.x/16504[/url]
Yes its basically a 9800GTX+ (G92-55nm) but on a shorter PCB board. Before the new branding some manufacturers designed a shorter custom board (9inch long) for the 9800GTX+ and was very popular so to differentiate between the original reference board (11inch long) and the new shorter board they decided to rename it. In my opinion is and excellent performance card and with 1Gb memory models released it will surpass the GTX260 with better cooling, less power consumption, cheaper to make and fits in most cases with ease.



http://www.inno3d.com/products/graphic_car...200/gts250.html



http://www.palit.biz/main/vgapro.php?id=1109



Here is a good review:



http://techreport.com/articles.x/16504

#3
Posted 03/20/2009 06:42 PM   
The 1GB GTX250 won't surpass the GTX260. The GTX260 has a larger memory BUS so it will be the better card at higher resolutions.
The 1GB GTX250 won't surpass the GTX260. The GTX260 has a larger memory BUS so it will be the better card at higher resolutions.

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#4
Posted 03/21/2009 02:53 AM   
[quote name='theprofessor13' post='520946' date='Mar 20 2009, 07:53 PM']The 1GB GTX250 won't surpass the GTX260. The GTX260 has a larger memory BUS so it will be the better card at higher resolutions.[/quote]

so i should get the gts250 instead of a 9800gtx+? It seems like an overall great card for someone on a budget like me. what do you guys think of this one?

[url="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127422"]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814127422[/url]

i may get a 1gb one if the prices go down, but is there even that much of a performance increase from 512 to 1gb?
[quote name='theprofessor13' post='520946' date='Mar 20 2009, 07:53 PM']The 1GB GTX250 won't surpass the GTX260. The GTX260 has a larger memory BUS so it will be the better card at higher resolutions.



so i should get the gts250 instead of a 9800gtx+? It seems like an overall great card for someone on a budget like me. what do you guys think of this one?



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814127422



i may get a 1gb one if the prices go down, but is there even that much of a performance increase from 512 to 1gb?

#5
Posted 03/21/2009 01:04 PM   
[quote name='theprofessor13' post='520946' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:53 AM']The 1GB GTX250 won't surpass the GTX260. The GTX260 has a larger memory BUS so it will be the better card at higher resolutions.[/quote]
Yes that’s true but only theoretically! In practice games need less video ram than system ram. In fact some games never even use half of the 512mb Vram available on my 9800GTX+ @1920x1200. On the other hand games will benefit a lot more from the higher clock speed of the GTS 250. So its really not necessary to have higher mem bus or more vram to get high performance. That’s why I think in some tests it may well surpass the GTX 260 in performance or at least comes very close to it on most common resolutions. But then I can't say that for very high resolutions like 2560x1600 maybe then the GTX 260 will stand out, but then you need a 30inch monitor for that and very few people got them and considering the price difference the GTS250 will certainly be my choice.
[quote name='theprofessor13' post='520946' date='Mar 21 2009, 02:53 AM']The 1GB GTX250 won't surpass the GTX260. The GTX260 has a larger memory BUS so it will be the better card at higher resolutions.

Yes that’s true but only theoretically! In practice games need less video ram than system ram. In fact some games never even use half of the 512mb Vram available on my 9800GTX+ @1920x1200. On the other hand games will benefit a lot more from the higher clock speed of the GTS 250. So its really not necessary to have higher mem bus or more vram to get high performance. That’s why I think in some tests it may well surpass the GTX 260 in performance or at least comes very close to it on most common resolutions. But then I can't say that for very high resolutions like 2560x1600 maybe then the GTX 260 will stand out, but then you need a 30inch monitor for that and very few people got them and considering the price difference the GTS250 will certainly be my choice.

#6
Posted 03/21/2009 02:31 PM   
[quote name='zafrothunder' post='521024' date='Mar 21 2009, 01:04 PM']so i should get the gts250 instead of a 9800gtx+? It seems like an overall great card for someone on a budget like me. what do you guys think of this one?

[url="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127422"]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814127422[/url]

i may get a 1gb one if the prices go down, but is there even that much of a performance increase from 512 to 1gb?[/quote]


For that price is amazing value but I am not sure how effective this cooler will be @760mhz! However I can at least see that its a variable speed fan on it which is good as it will get faster when the temp goes up. MSI generally make very good components and their support is excellent so I would defiantly buy it.
[quote name='zafrothunder' post='521024' date='Mar 21 2009, 01:04 PM']so i should get the gts250 instead of a 9800gtx+? It seems like an overall great card for someone on a budget like me. what do you guys think of this one?



http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814127422



i may get a 1gb one if the prices go down, but is there even that much of a performance increase from 512 to 1gb?





For that price is amazing value but I am not sure how effective this cooler will be @760mhz! However I can at least see that its a variable speed fan on it which is good as it will get faster when the temp goes up. MSI generally make very good components and their support is excellent so I would defiantly buy it.

#7
Posted 03/21/2009 02:46 PM   
[quote name='Zeman' post='521050' date='Mar 22 2009, 12:31 AM']Yes that’s true but only theoretically! In practice games need less video ram than system ram. In fact some games never even use half of the 512mb Vram available on my 9800GTX+ @1920x1200. On the other hand games will benefit a lot more from the higher clock speed of the GTS 250. So its really not necessary to have higher mem bus or more vram to get high performance. That’s why I think in some tests it may well surpass the GTX 260 in performance or at least comes very close to it on most common resolutions. But then I can't say that for very high resolutions like 2560x1600 maybe then the GTX 260 will stand out, but then you need a 30inch monitor for that and very few people got them and considering the price difference the GTS250 will certainly be my choice.[/quote]
How can you say the faster clock speeds will make the GTX250 the better card when they are two completely different chips? It's like comparing a Pentium D to a Core 2. The Pentium D could be at 5GHz but it would still be bested by the Core 2 if it were at half that speed.
I don't see the 9800GTX+ getting all that close to the GTX260 in any benchmark. [url="http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-9800-gtx-512mb-plus-review/6"]Here[/url] there is a good margin between the two and [url="http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,648548/Geforce-GTX-260-and-9800-GTX-Extreme-FSAA-Benchmarks-and-OC/Reviews/"]here[/url], even when overclocked the 9800GTX+ doesn't come that close.
I'm not saying that the GTX250/9800GTX+ is a bad card, it's not. My HD4850 rivals it in performance. I'm just saying that the GTX260 is better.
[quote name='Zeman' post='521050' date='Mar 22 2009, 12:31 AM']Yes that’s true but only theoretically! In practice games need less video ram than system ram. In fact some games never even use half of the 512mb Vram available on my 9800GTX+ @1920x1200. On the other hand games will benefit a lot more from the higher clock speed of the GTS 250. So its really not necessary to have higher mem bus or more vram to get high performance. That’s why I think in some tests it may well surpass the GTX 260 in performance or at least comes very close to it on most common resolutions. But then I can't say that for very high resolutions like 2560x1600 maybe then the GTX 260 will stand out, but then you need a 30inch monitor for that and very few people got them and considering the price difference the GTS250 will certainly be my choice.

How can you say the faster clock speeds will make the GTX250 the better card when they are two completely different chips? It's like comparing a Pentium D to a Core 2. The Pentium D could be at 5GHz but it would still be bested by the Core 2 if it were at half that speed.

I don't see the 9800GTX+ getting all that close to the GTX260 in any benchmark. Here there is a good margin between the two and here, even when overclocked the 9800GTX+ doesn't come that close.

I'm not saying that the GTX250/9800GTX+ is a bad card, it's not. My HD4850 rivals it in performance. I'm just saying that the GTX260 is better.

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#8
Posted 03/21/2009 11:16 PM   
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