GeForce 9800GT vs. GeForce 8800GT comparison etc.
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i was simply curious, is the 9800GT the new, improved version of the 8800GT? in other words, is the 9 Series better than the 8 Series? and if so, how much?

the main reason i'm asking this seemingly stupid question is that about a year ago i bought the superclocked EVGA E-GeForce 8800GT for about $220 which at that time was an amazing deal. i bought it within minutes of it's release in Canada. and now on the EXACT same websites, the 8800GT card which i purchased is listed as $240, and the brand new 9800GT superclocked cards from eVGA are listed as a mere $150!!!! does this make sense? isn't the 9800GT better? or am i poorly informed?

perhaps graphics card prices have gone down in the past year? or maybe the huge problems with the global economy are to blame (or thank) for these price drops?

any help would be amazing. thank you! =)
i was simply curious, is the 9800GT the new, improved version of the 8800GT? in other words, is the 9 Series better than the 8 Series? and if so, how much?



the main reason i'm asking this seemingly stupid question is that about a year ago i bought the superclocked EVGA E-GeForce 8800GT for about $220 which at that time was an amazing deal. i bought it within minutes of it's release in Canada. and now on the EXACT same websites, the 8800GT card which i purchased is listed as $240, and the brand new 9800GT superclocked cards from eVGA are listed as a mere $150!!!! does this make sense? isn't the 9800GT better? or am i poorly informed?



perhaps graphics card prices have gone down in the past year? or maybe the huge problems with the global economy are to blame (or thank) for these price drops?



any help would be amazing. thank you! =)

#1
Posted 10/21/2008 10:43 AM   
Hi


They are pretty much the same card. The 9800GT, runs a bit cooler than the 8800GT though.

You are better off getting a 9800GTX or even better, a GTX 260 if you wanna upgrade?

[url="http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=32200&vpn=PVT98WYDFH&manufacture=XFX"]http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku...manufacture=XFX[/url]


[url="http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30572&vpn=GX260NADF9&manufacture=XFX"]http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku...manufacture=XFX[/url]

But for the GTX 260, you will need a psu of minimum:

Minimum of a 500 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 36 Amp Amps.)

The 9800GTX:

Minimum of a 450 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 26 Amp Amps.)


I looked at NCIX, and I must agree to that the price tag is a bit high for the 8800GT's.

Could be, due to less demand for this card now. I.e it's more exspensive for the dealer to keep in stock. Not that uncommon for older hardware.
Hi





They are pretty much the same card. The 9800GT, runs a bit cooler than the 8800GT though.



You are better off getting a 9800GTX or even better, a GTX 260 if you wanna upgrade?



http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku...manufacture=XFX





http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku...manufacture=XFX



But for the GTX 260, you will need a psu of minimum:



Minimum of a 500 Watt power supply.

(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 36 Amp Amps.)



The 9800GTX:



Minimum of a 450 Watt power supply.

(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 26 Amp Amps.)





I looked at NCIX, and I must agree to that the price tag is a bit high for the 8800GT's.



Could be, due to less demand for this card now. I.e it's more exspensive for the dealer to keep in stock. Not that uncommon for older hardware.

Case: Antec P 180B. modded. 2 x 120mm Noctua fans.

Psu: Corsair HX 750W modular.

Mobo: EVGA 141-BL-E757-TR.

Cpu: Intel Core i7 920 2.6GHz @ 3.4 GHz.

Cpu cooler: Noctua NH-U12P SE1366.

RAM: Kingston HyperX 3GB DDR 3. 1600

Video cards: Sapphire HD 4890 Vapor-X Crossfire.

HDD: Western Digital Caviar 640gb Black edt.

Sound: Auzentech X-FI Prelude. Camebridge Desktop theatre 5.1 speakers.

#2
Posted 10/21/2008 11:11 AM   
[quote name='where?wolf' date='Oct 21 2008, 04:11 AM']Hi
They are pretty much the same card. The 9800GT, runs a bit cooler than the 8800GT though.

You are better of getting a 9800GTX or even better a GTX 260 if you wanna upgrade?

[url="http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=32200&vpn=PVT98WYDFH&manufacture=XFX"]http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku...manufacture=XFX[/url]
But for the GTX 260, you will need a psu of minimum:

Minimum of a 500 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 36 Amp Amps.)

The 9800GTX:

Minimum of a 450 Watt power supply.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 26 Amp Amps.)

[url="http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30572&vpn=GX260NADF9&manufacture=XFX"]http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku...manufacture=XFX[/url]

I looked at NCIX, and I must agree to that the price tag is a bit high for the 8800GT's.

Could be, due to less demand for this card now. I.e it's more exspensive for the dealer to keep in stock. Not that uncommon for older hardware.
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oh okay awesome, thank you so much! do you know if graphic card prices have gone down overall though? or were the 9800GTs originally priced low?

so since i have an 8800GT right now, it wouldn't be worth it to pick up the 9800GT, even though the price is right, is that correct? since they're virtually the same card?

i'm not looking to buy a new card at the moment, just kind of wondering why the prices are sooo low now for the new cards. seems odd to me. at this price i'm almost tempted to try to sell my 8800GT and pick up 2 9800GTs for $150 a piece.

i have a 500W power supply, so that might be a little tight though hey?
[quote name='where?wolf' date='Oct 21 2008, 04:11 AM']Hi

They are pretty much the same card. The 9800GT, runs a bit cooler than the 8800GT though.



You are better of getting a 9800GTX or even better a GTX 260 if you wanna upgrade?



http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku...manufacture=XFX

But for the GTX 260, you will need a psu of minimum:



Minimum of a 500 Watt power supply.

(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 36 Amp Amps.)



The 9800GTX:



Minimum of a 450 Watt power supply.

(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 26 Amp Amps.)



http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku...manufacture=XFX



I looked at NCIX, and I must agree to that the price tag is a bit high for the 8800GT's.



Could be, due to less demand for this card now. I.e it's more exspensive for the dealer to keep in stock. Not that uncommon for older hardware.

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oh okay awesome, thank you so much! do you know if graphic card prices have gone down overall though? or were the 9800GTs originally priced low?



so since i have an 8800GT right now, it wouldn't be worth it to pick up the 9800GT, even though the price is right, is that correct? since they're virtually the same card?



i'm not looking to buy a new card at the moment, just kind of wondering why the prices are sooo low now for the new cards. seems odd to me. at this price i'm almost tempted to try to sell my 8800GT and pick up 2 9800GTs for $150 a piece.



i have a 500W power supply, so that might be a little tight though hey?

#3
Posted 10/21/2008 11:16 AM   
If you look at newegg USA for ex. You can find 8800GT's as low as 114$ (PNY standard 8800GT). But most 8800GT's is pretty high priced. Between 179$ and 155$

The 9800GT goes from 119 to 160$

The minimum power supply requirement for a 9800GT SLI set up are:

Minimum 450 Watt for SLI mode system.
(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 28 Amp Amps.)

So, it should work with a 500W, providing your psu are 28A on the +12v and up? And you dont have that many power hungry, other hardware in your rig?

Use this psu calculator and sum up your stuff:

[url="http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp"]http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp[/url]

But maybe you would feel safer with a more powerful psu really:

[url="http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30037&vpn=EA650&manufacture=ANTEC#Specifications"]http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku...#Specifications[/url]

Got these 3X +12V rails:

12V1@18A; +12V2@18A; +12V3@25A

if I where you and considering going SLI? Then I would pick upp at least 1 of this 9800GT.

[url="http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=33091&vpn=512-P3-N971-TR&manufacture=eVGA"]http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku...anufacture=eVGA[/url]

This , as it have the kind of cooler that exhausts the hot air out of the case.

I say "At least one of this 9800GT". Is because if you can run 2 of this dual slot cooled 9800GT is depending on how much space you have between the PCI E slots?

If it's pretty cramped? Then get one 9800GT with the standard cooler for the top PCI E slot and this dual slot, cooled one, for the lower slot.

Make sure both cards runs the same clocks though.
If you look at newegg USA for ex. You can find 8800GT's as low as 114$ (PNY standard 8800GT). But most 8800GT's is pretty high priced. Between 179$ and 155$



The 9800GT goes from 119 to 160$



The minimum power supply requirement for a 9800GT SLI set up are:



Minimum 450 Watt for SLI mode system.

(Minimum recommended power supply with +12 Volt current rating of 28 Amp Amps.)



So, it should work with a 500W, providing your psu are 28A on the +12v and up? And you dont have that many power hungry, other hardware in your rig?



Use this psu calculator and sum up your stuff:



http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp



But maybe you would feel safer with a more powerful psu really:



http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku...#Specifications



Got these 3X +12V rails:



12V1@18A; +12V2@18A; +12V3@25A



if I where you and considering going SLI? Then I would pick upp at least 1 of this 9800GT.



http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku...anufacture=eVGA



This , as it have the kind of cooler that exhausts the hot air out of the case.



I say "At least one of this 9800GT". Is because if you can run 2 of this dual slot cooled 9800GT is depending on how much space you have between the PCI E slots?



If it's pretty cramped? Then get one 9800GT with the standard cooler for the top PCI E slot and this dual slot, cooled one, for the lower slot.



Make sure both cards runs the same clocks though.

Case: Antec P 180B. modded. 2 x 120mm Noctua fans.

Psu: Corsair HX 750W modular.

Mobo: EVGA 141-BL-E757-TR.

Cpu: Intel Core i7 920 2.6GHz @ 3.4 GHz.

Cpu cooler: Noctua NH-U12P SE1366.

RAM: Kingston HyperX 3GB DDR 3. 1600

Video cards: Sapphire HD 4890 Vapor-X Crossfire.

HDD: Western Digital Caviar 640gb Black edt.

Sound: Auzentech X-FI Prelude. Camebridge Desktop theatre 5.1 speakers.

#4
Posted 10/21/2008 11:35 AM   
The 9800GTs are basically the same as 8800GTs with one exception.

The asus 9800GT Ultimate is actualy a 8800GTS 512.

Its also nicely overclocked.

Tests have shown that the 9800GT Ultimate stock runs faster than a 9800GTX as well :)


edit: I was actualy in the same boat as you. I had 8800GTs sli. Fried one and couldn't overclock the other one anymore. (KFA2(Galaxy) cards, were designed well but must have been made cheaply, couldn't hold an overclock /blarg.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':/' /> )

So I did some research and noticed how good the 9800GT Ultimates were and grabbed 2. Man it was so worth it, these cards are great! haha
The 9800GTs are basically the same as 8800GTs with one exception.



The asus 9800GT Ultimate is actualy a 8800GTS 512.



Its also nicely overclocked.



Tests have shown that the 9800GT Ultimate stock runs faster than a 9800GTX as well :)





edit: I was actualy in the same boat as you. I had 8800GTs sli. Fried one and couldn't overclock the other one anymore. (KFA2(Galaxy) cards, were designed well but must have been made cheaply, couldn't hold an overclock /blarg.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':/' /> )



So I did some research and noticed how good the 9800GT Ultimates were and grabbed 2. Man it was so worth it, these cards are great! haha

#5
Posted 10/21/2008 02:04 PM   
Well there are some differences between the 8800 and 9800
the 9800 supports Nvidia's Hybridpower
and 3-way SLI on some models
and also HDMI audio passthrough comes standard on the 9800, if that means anything to you.
Well there are some differences between the 8800 and 9800

the 9800 supports Nvidia's Hybridpower

and 3-way SLI on some models

and also HDMI audio passthrough comes standard on the 9800, if that means anything to you.

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+
2GB OCZ DDR2 800
Gigabyte nForce 4 AM2 MoBo
ASUS 9800GT Matrix 512MB
Creative Soundblaster Live 24bit
20" Wide-screen Viewsonic Optiquest Q20WB
Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit
550w Thermaltake Purepower RX

#6
Posted 11/01/2008 05:29 PM   
[b]So what you people saying that geforce 9200 , 9400 , 9500 , 9600 are better than 9800 cz its the same as 8800!!
i was gonna get it this week
so the geforce 9600 is better than it??[/b]
So what you people saying that geforce 9200 , 9400 , 9500 , 9600 are better than 9800 cz its the same as 8800!!

i was gonna get it this week

so the geforce 9600 is better than it??

#7
Posted 04/26/2009 10:32 AM   
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#8
Posted 04/26/2009 08:51 PM   
9600(G94) < 9800(G92B) = 8800(G92A)
9600(G94) < 9800(G92B) = 8800(G92A)

#9
Posted 04/27/2009 12:01 AM   
and thats supposed to mean what?
and thats supposed to mean what?

#10
Posted 04/27/2009 12:57 AM   
[quote name='systamatics' post='534593' date='Apr 26 2009, 11:32 AM'][b]So what you people saying that geforce 9200 , 9400 , 9500 , 9600 are better than 9800 cz its the same as 8800!!
i was gonna get it this week
so the geforce 9600 is better than it??[/b][/quote]

No, you have been completely mislead by the numbers.

The higher the model number,the better the card but and this is the important bit, it only applies to the same gerneration/series.

When you start comparing a different gen/series, you cant apply the above.

examples

8800gso is identical to the 9600gso

8800gt is equivalent to a 9800gt

8800gts 512mb is better than a 9800gt.
[quote name='systamatics' post='534593' date='Apr 26 2009, 11:32 AM']So what you people saying that geforce 9200 , 9400 , 9500 , 9600 are better than 9800 cz its the same as 8800!!

i was gonna get it this week

so the geforce 9600 is better than it??




No, you have been completely mislead by the numbers.



The higher the model number,the better the card but and this is the important bit, it only applies to the same gerneration/series.



When you start comparing a different gen/series, you cant apply the above.



examples



8800gso is identical to the 9600gso



8800gt is equivalent to a 9800gt



8800gts 512mb is better than a 9800gt.

#11
Posted 04/27/2009 09:33 AM   
[b]why are you people not giving me a straight answer???
i didnt understand what you said above
is the 8800gt the same as 9800gt
and is the 9600gt better than the 9800gt?[/b]
why are you people not giving me a straight answer???

i didnt understand what you said above

is the 8800gt the same as 9800gt

and is the 9600gt better than the 9800gt?

#12
Posted 04/27/2009 12:09 PM   
[quote name='systamatics' post='534957' date='Apr 27 2009, 01:09 PM'][b]why are you people not giving me a straight answer???
i didnt understand what you said above

1) is the 8800gt the same as 9800gt

2) and is the 9600gt better than the 9800gt?[/b][/quote]

Maybe if i answer your questions with only yes and no it will help.

1) yes

2) no
[quote name='systamatics' post='534957' date='Apr 27 2009, 01:09 PM']why are you people not giving me a straight answer???

i didnt understand what you said above



1) is the 8800gt the same as 9800gt



2) and is the 9600gt better than the 9800gt?




Maybe if i answer your questions with only yes and no it will help.



1) yes



2) no

#13
Posted 04/27/2009 04:01 PM   
[b]So let me get this , the 8800gt is the same like 9800gt and better than all the nine series??
meaning the 8800gt is better than 9200 9400 9500 9600 ?[/b]
So let me get this , the 8800gt is the same like 9800gt and better than all the nine series??

meaning the 8800gt is better than 9200 9400 9500 9600 ?

#14
Posted 04/27/2009 04:12 PM   
[quote name='systamatics' post='535036' date='Apr 27 2009, 05:12 PM'][b]1) So let me get this , the 8800gt is the same like 9800gt and

1a) better than all the nine series??

2) meaning the 8800gt is better than 9200 9400 9500 9600 ?[/b][/quote]

1) yes

1a) but not better than all the 9xxx series. These ones are better, the 9800GTX, 9800GTX+ and 9800GX2

2) Yes, spot on.

So to list it all in order of performance, it will look like this, starting with the lowest,

9200, 9400, 9500, 9600, 8800GT & 9800GT , 9800GTX, 9800GTX+, 9800GX2
[quote name='systamatics' post='535036' date='Apr 27 2009, 05:12 PM']1) So let me get this , the 8800gt is the same like 9800gt and



1a) better than all the nine series??



2) meaning the 8800gt is better than 9200 9400 9500 9600 ?




1) yes



1a) but not better than all the 9xxx series. These ones are better, the 9800GTX, 9800GTX+ and 9800GX2



2) Yes, spot on.



So to list it all in order of performance, it will look like this, starting with the lowest,



9200, 9400, 9500, 9600, 8800GT & 9800GT , 9800GTX, 9800GTX+, 9800GX2

#15
Posted 04/27/2009 05:28 PM   
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