Limited Color/RGB Range? Windows Vista 64bit
Hi,

I recently connected my PC via a DVI to HDMI cable to my HDTV.
My HDTV is a Toshiba 42X3030D and it’s not able to display full range RGB properly resulting in a black crush.
(Note: I’m using a DVI to HDMI cable because the VGA port of this HDTV is limited to 1366x768 and HDMI allows 1920x1080 and prevents overscan)

So basically I want to get rid of the black crush by changing to limited RGB range or limited color range (what ever you call it, you know I mean the video level 16 - 235).

I was looking for an option to do that in the nVidia control panel but without results. So I’m asking if it possible to do that and if yes how I do that?

I’m using Windows Vista 64 bit and FW 177.26 on an 8800GTX. This driver solved all my nvlddmkm problems so I hope that it is not necessary to change the driver.

I appreciate all answers.
Hi,



I recently connected my PC via a DVI to HDMI cable to my HDTV.

My HDTV is a Toshiba 42X3030D and it’s not able to display full range RGB properly resulting in a black crush.

(Note: I’m using a DVI to HDMI cable because the VGA port of this HDTV is limited to 1366x768 and HDMI allows 1920x1080 and prevents overscan)



So basically I want to get rid of the black crush by changing to limited RGB range or limited color range (what ever you call it, you know I mean the video level 16 - 235).



I was looking for an option to do that in the nVidia control panel but without results. So I’m asking if it possible to do that and if yes how I do that?



I’m using Windows Vista 64 bit and FW 177.26 on an 8800GTX. This driver solved all my nvlddmkm problems so I hope that it is not necessary to change the driver.



I appreciate all answers.

#1
Posted 08/31/2008 04:25 PM   
*push*

This is still an actual issue for me.

How you guys make it when connecting e.g. a HTPC to a HDTV? - A normal HDTV works with array values ranging from 16 to 235. As accepting full range is not a norm for HDTV it would make nVidia video cards unappealing for use in HTPCs. So there has to be an option to limit the range unless nVidia does not care about this market.
*push*



This is still an actual issue for me.



How you guys make it when connecting e.g. a HTPC to a HDTV? - A normal HDTV works with array values ranging from 16 to 235. As accepting full range is not a norm for HDTV it would make nVidia video cards unappealing for use in HTPCs. So there has to be an option to limit the range unless nVidia does not care about this market.

#2
Posted 09/01/2008 09:48 PM   
[quote name='Ishigami' date='Sep 1 2008, 11:48 PM']*push*

This is still an actual issue for me.

How you guys make it when connecting e.g. a HTPC to a HDTV? - A normal HDTV works with array values ranging from 16 to 235. As accepting full range is not a norm for HDTV it would make nVidia video cards unappealing for use in HTPCs.  So there has to be an option to limit the range unless nVidia does not care about this market.
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Don't have a HDTV myself, but try connecting it over component. Component output should have the limited color output you crave.
[quote name='Ishigami' date='Sep 1 2008, 11:48 PM']*push*



This is still an actual issue for me.



How you guys make it when connecting e.g. a HTPC to a HDTV? - A normal HDTV works with array values ranging from 16 to 235. As accepting full range is not a norm for HDTV it would make nVidia video cards unappealing for use in HTPCs.  So there has to be an option to limit the range unless nVidia does not care about this market.

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Don't have a HDTV myself, but try connecting it over component. Component output should have the limited color output you crave.

#3
Posted 09/01/2008 11:48 PM   
Is this the option you are looking for
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Is this the option you are looking for

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#4
Posted 09/02/2008 12:02 AM   
[quote name='anss123' date='Sep 2 2008, 12:48 AM']Don't have a HDTV myself, but try connecting it over component. Component output should have the limited color output you crave.
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Component is no option as my XBox 360 is running over it. It's an old model without HDMI.

[quote name='Stickywulf' date='Sep 2 2008, 01:02 AM']Is this the option you are looking for
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Thats what I'm looking for! /w00t.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':w00t:' />

But... I don't have that option! :'(
I'm only able to adjust colors and gamma... no advanced option.
Which driver are you using?

I'm using, like I said, a modded 177.26.
[quote name='anss123' date='Sep 2 2008, 12:48 AM']Don't have a HDTV myself, but try connecting it over component. Component output should have the limited color output you crave.

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Component is no option as my XBox 360 is running over it. It's an old model without HDMI.



[quote name='Stickywulf' date='Sep 2 2008, 01:02 AM']Is this the option you are looking for

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Thats what I'm looking for! /w00t.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':w00t:' />



But... I don't have that option! :'(

I'm only able to adjust colors and gamma... no advanced option.

Which driver are you using?



I'm using, like I said, a modded 177.26.

#5
Posted 09/03/2008 09:21 PM   
Ok I see it's 177.92 Beta.
That driver won't do me any good. It limits my refresh rate to 24Hz...
Then I rather live with a little black crush.
Ok I see it's 177.92 Beta.

That driver won't do me any good. It limits my refresh rate to 24Hz...

Then I rather live with a little black crush.

#6
Posted 09/03/2008 10:13 PM   
Yep, the screenshot was with 177.92. I'm not sure exactly which driver version that option first appeared, but am confident you will see it in new driver versions.
Yep, the screenshot was with 177.92. I'm not sure exactly which driver version that option first appeared, but am confident you will see it in new driver versions.

#7
Posted 09/04/2008 06:20 AM   
this doesnt to jack for games... just video! PLEASE FOR GAMES A FIX
this doesnt to jack for games... just video! PLEASE FOR GAMES A FIX

#8
Posted 01/09/2009 05:29 PM   
anybody?
anybody?

#9
Posted 01/12/2009 03:58 PM   
PLEASE FIX THIS!!!

I can't believe a $1500 TV and $500 GTX 295 that both support full range and I can't see RGB full range......

Please NVidia give us the option to display 0-255 RGB instead of locking it to 16-235. Its gone on too long it seems
PLEASE FIX THIS!!!



I can't believe a $1500 TV and $500 GTX 295 that both support full range and I can't see RGB full range......



Please NVidia give us the option to display 0-255 RGB instead of locking it to 16-235. Its gone on too long it seems

#10
Posted 02/03/2009 02:00 AM   
I've just posted my own topic because I didn't see this one.

I'm trying to do the same thing (force RGB 0-255 instead of limited 16-235).

I guess you still can't do it?!
I've just posted my own topic because I didn't see this one.



I'm trying to do the same thing (force RGB 0-255 instead of limited 16-235).



I guess you still can't do it?!

#11
Posted 07/03/2009 04:50 AM   
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