Driver Cleaner ??
This is first time i used driver cleaner........i read the "read me file" and followed instructions and booted into safe mode etc. etc.......all went fine.

i restarted and intstalled 97.92 for my 8800gtx......(wanted to try these out from guru3d) all seems to be working fine but my question is the folder where my chipset drivers are ......are not there anymore. only my vga drivers (obviously after installing new ones)

is this normal.......i saw 3 or 4 options in the Driver cleaner for nivida like "nvidia chipset drvers", "nvdia", "nvidia stereo", "nvida WDM".

well i clicked on "nvidia"......cause i don't want to clean my chipset drivers as i am not installing new ones. did i click on the right one?

why would it wipe my mb drivers folder also. my default is C:\nvidia. this is where i put my mb and vga drivers into.

sry first time doin this stuff.
This is first time i used driver cleaner........i read the "read me file" and followed instructions and booted into safe mode etc. etc.......all went fine.



i restarted and intstalled 97.92 for my 8800gtx......(wanted to try these out from guru3d) all seems to be working fine but my question is the folder where my chipset drivers are ......are not there anymore. only my vga drivers (obviously after installing new ones)



is this normal.......i saw 3 or 4 options in the Driver cleaner for nivida like "nvidia chipset drvers", "nvdia", "nvidia stereo", "nvida WDM".



well i clicked on "nvidia"......cause i don't want to clean my chipset drivers as i am not installing new ones. did i click on the right one?



why would it wipe my mb drivers folder also. my default is C:\nvidia. this is where i put my mb and vga drivers into.



sry first time doin this stuff.

#1
Posted 01/09/2007 08:16 AM   
this is why i don't use driver cleaner

it gives no user control over just what is removed.
this is why i don't use driver cleaner



it gives no user control over just what is removed.

#2
Posted 01/09/2007 09:22 AM   
Hello CruzDmalta,

I know a lot of people on various forums insist that Driver Cleaner should be used, but I have never used it.

With Nvidia drivers if I need to, I uninstal using Windows control panel add or remove programs and then instal new drivers.

This is what Nvidia recommends [url="http://www.nvidia.com/object/driver_installation_hints.html"]http://www.nvidia.com/object/driver_installation_hints.html[/url]
Hello CruzDmalta,



I know a lot of people on various forums insist that Driver Cleaner should be used, but I have never used it.



With Nvidia drivers if I need to, I uninstal using Windows control panel add or remove programs and then instal new drivers.



This is what Nvidia recommends http://www.nvidia.com/object/driver_installation_hints.html

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#3
Posted 01/09/2007 11:49 AM   
I only use driver cleaner when Im switching a system from nvidia to ATI graphics card wise.

You will just have to reinstall the chipset drivers, which you can update now :)
I only use driver cleaner when Im switching a system from nvidia to ATI graphics card wise.



You will just have to reinstall the chipset drivers, which you can update now :)

#4
Posted 01/09/2007 01:11 PM   
thnx for respones.

i think since i don't seem to have the user freedom to choose what to "clean" i will prob just opt for the going back to the "add\remove" and uninstall that way with out driver cleaner unless some one has some more advice.

simply clicking on "nvidia" and not knowing what it all cleans doesn't do it for me yet. maybe if i reinstall chipset drives and vga drivers at the same time i might give it a go then. thnx.
thnx for respones.



i think since i don't seem to have the user freedom to choose what to "clean" i will prob just opt for the going back to the "add\remove" and uninstall that way with out driver cleaner unless some one has some more advice.



simply clicking on "nvidia" and not knowing what it all cleans doesn't do it for me yet. maybe if i reinstall chipset drives and vga drivers at the same time i might give it a go then. thnx.

#5
Posted 01/09/2007 10:56 PM   
I and many others have used driver cleaner for a long time without any issues. What you're experiencing usually comes from people originally removing the driver through add/remove programs and not selecting only the display driver.
Driver cleaner does nothing with chipset drivers unless you tell it to.
I and many others have used driver cleaner for a long time without any issues. What you're experiencing usually comes from people originally removing the driver through add/remove programs and not selecting only the display driver.

Driver cleaner does nothing with chipset drivers unless you tell it to.

#6
Posted 01/09/2007 11:20 PM   
[quote name='-999-' date='Jan 10 2007, 01:20 AM']I and many others have used driver cleaner for a long time without any issues.  What you're experiencing usually comes from people originally removing the driver through add/remove programs and not selecting only the display driver.
Driver cleaner does nothing with chipset drivers unless you tell it to.
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That's so wrong in so many aspects. Don't listen to that guy.

Installing and uninstalling is a task I'd never use a third party tool for.

You have to remember: nVidia can change their driver at any time. It's virtually impossible for a third party tool to know exactly what each driver version changes in a system. It can do that for a single driver version, of course, but the next version might add another step which isn't covered.

THERE IS JUST NO REASON TO USE DRIVER CLEANER IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Even when moving from ATI to nVidia or vice versa. You don't even have to uninstall the ATI driver before installing an nVidia driver, since both can exist in a single system at the same time.

If there's a problem with your installation (like it's impossible to install a gfx driver anymore or if the performance is significantly inhibited), I'd always do a Windows repair installation. That will clear out all drivers from the system while leaving user settings and installed applications intact. The drivers will automatically be reinstalled from Windows driver cache, but only the drivers for the hardware actually present during the installation.

If you want to install the drivers manually after the repair installation has been completed, you can rename or delete the Windows\inf directory before you start the repair installation.
[quote name='-999-' date='Jan 10 2007, 01:20 AM']I and many others have used driver cleaner for a long time without any issues.  What you're experiencing usually comes from people originally removing the driver through add/remove programs and not selecting only the display driver.

Driver cleaner does nothing with chipset drivers unless you tell it to.

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That's so wrong in so many aspects. Don't listen to that guy.



Installing and uninstalling is a task I'd never use a third party tool for.



You have to remember: nVidia can change their driver at any time. It's virtually impossible for a third party tool to know exactly what each driver version changes in a system. It can do that for a single driver version, of course, but the next version might add another step which isn't covered.



THERE IS JUST NO REASON TO USE DRIVER CLEANER IN THE FIRST PLACE!



Even when moving from ATI to nVidia or vice versa. You don't even have to uninstall the ATI driver before installing an nVidia driver, since both can exist in a single system at the same time.



If there's a problem with your installation (like it's impossible to install a gfx driver anymore or if the performance is significantly inhibited), I'd always do a Windows repair installation. That will clear out all drivers from the system while leaving user settings and installed applications intact. The drivers will automatically be reinstalled from Windows driver cache, but only the drivers for the hardware actually present during the installation.



If you want to install the drivers manually after the repair installation has been completed, you can rename or delete the Windows\inf directory before you start the repair installation.

#7
Posted 01/10/2007 06:57 AM   
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