Upgrading graphic card from All-in-one
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So I'm looking for a couple upgrading options for gaming; something that would fit that size and it would allow me to put the cover back on. The setup of this all-in-one is new and interesting to me (desktop cpu/ gpu and sodimm rams). here's the pic.: https://imgur.com/a/f4gBk btw, that's an nVidia GT 420 1920x1080. i5-2500S 2.70ghZ 6GB RAM
So I'm looking for a couple upgrading options for gaming; something that would fit that size and it would allow me to put the cover back on. The setup of this all-in-one is new and interesting to me (desktop cpu/ gpu and sodimm rams). here's the pic.: https://imgur.com/a/f4gBk

btw, that's an nVidia GT 420
1920x1080.
i5-2500S 2.70ghZ
6GB RAM

#1
Posted 12/04/2017 02:24 PM   
All that is is a "low-profile" + "single slot" graphics card with the bracket removed. So you are looking at a GT1030 low profile/single slot (most modern) in order to fit the limited power provided by the AIO. This; provided that the OEM motherboard manufacturer provides a BIOS update to accommodate newer generation GPUs.
All that is is a "low-profile" + "single slot" graphics card with the bracket removed.

So you are looking at a GT1030 low profile/single slot (most modern) in order to fit the limited power provided by the AIO. This; provided that the OEM motherboard manufacturer provides a BIOS update to accommodate newer generation GPUs.

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#2
Posted 12/04/2017 03:09 PM   
https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/msi/geforce-gt-1030-2gh-lp-oc-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/ https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/gigabyte/geforce-gt-1030-low-profile-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/ https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/gigabyte/geforce-gt-1030-silent-low-profile-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/ https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/zotac/geforce-gt-1030-zone-edition-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/ https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/evga/geforce-gt-1030-sc-low-profile-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/ https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/asus/geforce-gt-1030-sl-brk-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/ which one do you recommend? the evga got the highest clock but it has active cooling and the asus is the cheapest by far (~$15 less) 64 bit seems kinda low. Any other options? the GT 420 is 128; what's the difference?
. [quote]64 bit seems kinda low. Any other options? the GT 420 is 128.[/quote] Youre fighting the wrong battle there. That card is 7years old. The Technology used on the GT1030 is from this year and able to beat the hell out of the GT 420. The problem I see is that it looks like the GT 420 is using VGA? .
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64 bit seems kinda low. Any other options? the GT 420 is 128.


Youre fighting the wrong battle there. That card is 7years old. The Technology used on the GT1030 is from this year and able to beat the hell out of the GT 420.

The problem I see is that it looks like the GT 420 is using VGA?


.

My Opinion is no more important or right than yours. But if your using the LATEST drivers, go back to the prior set.

Piss Poor tech support blame all issues on drivers and assumes that your an idiot. Find a set that you know worked and see if the problem exists still.

""Don't f with it if it ain't broken!""
Constantly updating drivers is a good way to F'up the whole system.

If the driver has an issue, don't be a fool, remove it.

Just because you can, does not mean you should.

#4
Posted 12/05/2017 01:23 AM   
[quote="Greybear"] . [quote]64 bit seems kinda low. Any other options? the GT 420 is 128.[/quote] Youre fighting the wrong battle there. That card is 7years old. The Technology used on the GT1030 is from this year and able to beat the hell out of the GT 420. The problem I see is that it looks like the GT 420 is using VGA? .[/quote] I'm not sure, but it looks too big for a VGA. There should be DVI + HDMI. Also, if I'll be able to play stuff like GTA5 on med or even higher it'll be perfect.
Greybear said:
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64 bit seems kinda low. Any other options? the GT 420 is 128.


Youre fighting the wrong battle there. That card is 7years old. The Technology used on the GT1030 is from this year and able to beat the hell out of the GT 420.

The problem I see is that it looks like the GT 420 is using VGA?


.


I'm not sure, but it looks too big for a VGA. There should be DVI + HDMI.
Also, if I'll be able to play stuff like GTA5 on med or even higher it'll be perfect.

#5
Posted 12/05/2017 01:39 AM   
. You need to pull that connector and take a look at it. Because if it is the DVI, you either need a card with a DVI or another CABLE to convert it. If it is a DVI-A | DVI-I and using a VGA output, you will need an ACTIVE CONVERTER. .
.

You need to pull that connector and take a look at it.

Because if it is the DVI, you either need a card with a DVI or another CABLE to convert it.

If it is a DVI-A | DVI-I and using a VGA output, you will need an ACTIVE CONVERTER.


.

My Opinion is no more important or right than yours. But if your using the LATEST drivers, go back to the prior set.

Piss Poor tech support blame all issues on drivers and assumes that your an idiot. Find a set that you know worked and see if the problem exists still.

""Don't f with it if it ain't broken!""
Constantly updating drivers is a good way to F'up the whole system.

If the driver has an issue, don't be a fool, remove it.

Just because you can, does not mean you should.

#6
Posted 12/05/2017 01:46 AM   
All good. https://imgur.com/a/P0zg6
All good. https://imgur.com/a/P0zg6

#7
Posted 12/05/2017 02:15 AM   
. Thats a DVI-I Dual, but what about the connector to the computer? In the original image, it appears it is connecting BOTH of these to the computer, which seems very odd. Does it work with only the HDMI connected? The HDMI could be connected to an OUT port and not even used for the Monitor(allinone) I am asking all this because the GT 1030 only has DIGITAL outputs. The connector on the motherboard, if it has the 4 Analog pins will not slot into the card. =============== Next what is the EXACT model of this ALL In One? Run SPECCY and get the Motherboard model. If you try to upgrade to high, then youre screwed as it will not work. Get the Motherboard BIOS version and DATE. Several units with 2013 bioses needed to update to run the 600 / 700 series. Then again for the 900series. A couple of the 700 series are actually part of the 900 Family. And if it runs a 900 series, it will run a 1K .
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Thats a DVI-I Dual, but what about the connector to the computer?


In the original image, it appears it is connecting BOTH of these to the computer, which seems very odd. Does it work with only the HDMI connected?

The HDMI could be connected to an OUT port and not even used for the Monitor(allinone)

I am asking all this because the GT 1030 only has DIGITAL outputs. The connector on the motherboard, if it has the 4 Analog pins will not slot into the card.


===============


Next what is the EXACT model of this ALL In One?

Run SPECCY and get the Motherboard model. If you try to upgrade to high, then youre screwed as it will not work.

Get the Motherboard BIOS version and DATE.


Several units with 2013 bioses needed to update to run the 600 / 700 series. Then again for the 900series. A couple of the 700 series are actually part of the 900 Family. And if it runs a 900 series, it will run a 1K


.

My Opinion is no more important or right than yours. But if your using the LATEST drivers, go back to the prior set.

Piss Poor tech support blame all issues on drivers and assumes that your an idiot. Find a set that you know worked and see if the problem exists still.

""Don't f with it if it ain't broken!""
Constantly updating drivers is a good way to F'up the whole system.

If the driver has an issue, don't be a fool, remove it.

Just because you can, does not mean you should.

#8
Posted 12/05/2017 02:59 AM   
Packard Bell oneTwo M, but when I try to look for drivers on their website based on SNID it tells me Packard Bell oneTwo xx.U6P Motherboard: Gateway IPISB-AG 10/18/2011 https://imgur.com/a/hIoqW
Packard Bell oneTwo M, but when I try to look for drivers on their website based on SNID it tells me Packard Bell oneTwo xx.U6P

Motherboard: Gateway IPISB-AG 10/18/2011

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#9
Posted 12/05/2017 03:56 AM   
. Im gonna tell you. After doing some searching, I would not try to put anything higher than a 600 series card in it. I am not even sure that would work. The 500 series came out in the same time frame...and like several of the 600 series are rebranded 400 series cards. If you can try it and return the card without it costing you, then definitely try. But I figure once you step above the 600series, your chances of success drop 100% .
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Im gonna tell you. After doing some searching, I would not try to put anything higher than a 600 series card in it. I am not even sure that would work.

The 500 series came out in the same time frame...and like several of the 600 series are rebranded 400 series cards.

If you can try it and return the card without it costing you, then definitely try. But I figure once you step above the 600series, your chances of success drop 100%


.

My Opinion is no more important or right than yours. But if your using the LATEST drivers, go back to the prior set.

Piss Poor tech support blame all issues on drivers and assumes that your an idiot. Find a set that you know worked and see if the problem exists still.

""Don't f with it if it ain't broken!""
Constantly updating drivers is a good way to F'up the whole system.

If the driver has an issue, don't be a fool, remove it.

Just because you can, does not mean you should.

#10
Posted 12/05/2017 04:38 AM   
Yeah, the store has a return policy. What about the brand? [quote="ardil3sz"]https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/msi/geforce-gt-1030-2gh-lp-oc-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/ https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/gigabyte/geforce-gt-1030-low-profile-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/ https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/gigabyte/geforce-gt-1030-silent-low-profile-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/ https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/zotac/geforce-gt-1030-zone-edition-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/ https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/evga/geforce-gt-1030-sc-low-profile-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/ https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/asus/geforce-gt-1030-sl-brk-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/ which one do you recommend? the evga got the highest clock but it has active cooling and the asus is the cheapest by far (~$15 less) 64 bit seems kinda low. Any other options? the GT 420 is 128; what's the difference?[/quote]
Yeah, the store has a return policy. What about the brand?
ardil3sz said:https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/msi/geforce-gt-1030-2gh-lp-oc-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/


https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/gigabyte/geforce-gt-1030-low-profile-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/


https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/gigabyte/geforce-gt-1030-silent-low-profile-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/


https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/zotac/geforce-gt-1030-zone-edition-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/


https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/evga/geforce-gt-1030-sc-low-profile-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/


https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/asus/geforce-gt-1030-sl-brk-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/


which one do you recommend? the evga got the highest clock but it has active cooling and the asus is the cheapest by far (~$15 less)

64 bit seems kinda low. Any other options? the GT 420 is 128; what's the difference?

#11
Posted 12/05/2017 05:18 AM   
. How long is the Original card and how much space do you have available behind and above the card? Price is important, but I would also be careful about the OC. OC = Heat and this unit does not look like it has the best cooling. So, depending on possibly modifying the case, you could use a card with Active cooling (Gigabyte | Evga) routing the exhaust out and increasing the ports for air in. .
.

How long is the Original card and how much space do you have available behind and above the card?

Price is important, but I would also be careful about the OC. OC = Heat and this unit does not look like it has the best cooling.

So, depending on possibly modifying the case, you could use a card with Active cooling (Gigabyte | Evga) routing the exhaust out and increasing the ports for air in.


.

My Opinion is no more important or right than yours. But if your using the LATEST drivers, go back to the prior set.

Piss Poor tech support blame all issues on drivers and assumes that your an idiot. Find a set that you know worked and see if the problem exists still.

""Don't f with it if it ain't broken!""
Constantly updating drivers is a good way to F'up the whole system.

If the driver has an issue, don't be a fool, remove it.

Just because you can, does not mean you should.

#12
Posted 12/05/2017 01:37 PM   
[quote="Greybear"] . How long is the Original card and how much space do you have available behind and above the card? Price is important, but I would also be careful about the OC. OC = Heat and this unit does not look like it has the best cooling. So, depending on possibly modifying the case, you could use a card with Active cooling (Gigabyte | Evga) routing the exhaust out and increasing the ports for air in. . [/quote] 16cm lenght 5mm space behind I could just mount the big plastic cover and leave out the metallic one.
Greybear said:
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How long is the Original card and how much space do you have available behind and above the card?

Price is important, but I would also be careful about the OC. OC = Heat and this unit does not look like it has the best cooling.

So, depending on possibly modifying the case, you could use a card with Active cooling (Gigabyte | Evga) routing the exhaust out and increasing the ports for air in.


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16cm lenght
5mm space behind
I could just mount the big plastic cover and leave out the metallic one.

#13
Posted 12/05/2017 02:00 PM   
. Then the questions moves to how much extra space does that give you? several of the cards you list are a little long. [url=https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/gigabyte/geforce-gt-1030-low-profile-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/]150mm[/url] - Verify from another source. [url=https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/gigabyte/geforce-gt-1030-silent-low-profile-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/]175mm[/url] [url=https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/zotac/geforce-gt-1030-zone-edition-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/]172.5mm[/url] [url=https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/msi/geforce-gt-1030-2gh-lp-oc-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/]153mm[/url] = verify from another source [url=https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/asus/geforce-gt-1030-sl-brk-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/]173mm[/url] [url=https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-video/evga/geforce-gt-1030-sc-low-profile-2gb-ddr5-64-bit/]145mm[/url] - verify from another source. The metal could have several purposes... like Cooling air flow pattern, shielding. .
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Then the questions moves to how much extra space does that give you? several of the cards you list are a little long.

150mm - Verify from another source.

175mm

172.5mm

153mm = verify from another source

173mm

145mm - verify from another source.

The metal could have several purposes... like Cooling air flow pattern, shielding.


.

My Opinion is no more important or right than yours. But if your using the LATEST drivers, go back to the prior set.

Piss Poor tech support blame all issues on drivers and assumes that your an idiot. Find a set that you know worked and see if the problem exists still.

""Don't f with it if it ain't broken!""
Constantly updating drivers is a good way to F'up the whole system.

If the driver has an issue, don't be a fool, remove it.

Just because you can, does not mean you should.

#14
Posted 12/06/2017 03:14 AM   
I'm getting the Gigabyte (150mm) so it should fit right in + covers.
I'm getting the Gigabyte (150mm) so it should fit right in + covers.

#15
Posted 12/06/2017 04:16 PM   
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