GF210 - Mediocre Image Quality & Choppy Video
I just installed a GeForce 210 1Gb (the version with the fan) and it's performance is sub-par. Video playback on some movies is choppy and overall image quality is ok but not great. It replaced a failed Asus 6600Gt card (with only 256 MB memory!). Image quality was much better with the old card. Unlike the 210, display pixelation issues were rare and videos played back smoothly and with more clarity. The system uses an older 939 Asus board with an Athlon 64 CPU. It has a PCI-E 1.0 graphics slot (the store where I bought it said this would work with the new card), OS is XPsp3. At the recommendation of support, I used DDU driver cleaner (which deleted my sound card driver, btw), then I tried a "clean install" with the latest 210 drivers, but that didn't help. Are these cards just kind of weak, or did I get a bad one? - Thanks
I just installed a GeForce 210 1Gb (the version with the fan) and it's performance is sub-par. Video playback on some movies is choppy and overall image quality is ok but not great.

It replaced a failed Asus 6600Gt card (with only 256 MB memory!). Image quality was much better with the old card. Unlike the 210, display pixelation issues were rare and videos played back smoothly and with more clarity. The system uses an older 939 Asus board with an Athlon 64 CPU. It has a PCI-E 1.0 graphics slot (the store where I bought it said this would work with the new card), OS is XPsp3.

At the recommendation of support, I used DDU driver cleaner (which deleted my sound card driver, btw), then I tried a "clean install" with the latest 210 drivers, but that didn't help.

Are these cards just kind of weak, or did I get a bad one?

- Thanks

#1
Posted 05/02/2017 12:37 AM   
[quote]Are these cards just kind of weak, or did I get a bad one?[/quote] "Extremely" weak.... To the point where most board integrated or APUs (CPU w/ built-in GPU) are well capable of outperforming the 210... Allow me to explain how Nvidia's model numbers work; so that you are better able to understand the differences between them, and how they are classified. 1st thing to note is that there are two differing classes of "consumer" graphics chips offered by Nvidia; [b]"GT"[/b] and [b]"GTX"[/b]. - [b]"GT" class [/b]GPUs are designed for "media" applications such as HD video playback and Flash (think Facebook) games. These perform very poorly in "modern gaming" titles and/or 3D modeling/rendering. - [b]"GTX" class[/b] GPUs are designed for "gaming" in mind -The 1st number of the model# refers to the "series" and has ZERO indication of performance. -The 2nd # relates to the card's actual performance within that series. -The end suffix "ti" refers to a mid-point card (or "half year" since these are usually released 6-8 months after the non-"ti" version). A "ti" card usually has ~20% better performance than the non-ti model and is "halfway" between the non-ti model and the next model up. (ie: GTX650->GTX650ti->GTX660) -The [b]"GT"[/b] line runs from x10 -> x40 (Media grade) -The [b]"GTX"[/b] line runs from x50 -> x80 (Gaming grade); while the x"90" is a dual GPU card which currently ended with the GTX690. (Titan excluded) Example 1: The model# GTX-650 tells us that it's a "600 series", "gaming grade", entry level GPU "GTX"= gaming "6"= 600 series "50"= entry level "gaming" GPU (ie: 5 of 8) Example 2: The model# GT-610 tells us that it's a "600 series", "media grade", lowest entry level GPU availible within the 600-series. "GT"= media "6"= 600 series "10"= lowest-end/entry level "media" GPU (ie: 1 of 8) -Then there's the [b]"M" notation[/b]... This stands for a "Mobile" (ie: Laptop) chip and in [u]NO WAY[/u] compares to its desktop cousin in respect to performance. Typically; mobile chips offer an approx [b][u]"loss" in performance of 40%-60% when compared to the desktop version.[/u][/b] Then there's the issue of the 210 no longer being supported w/ modern drivers/software. The 200 series (along with the 6000,7000,8000,9000,100,200,300 and some lower-end 400 series) had reached EOL (End of Life) status as of 4/2014. Thus; no further drivers/software has become available after said date. The posted "updates" listed after 4/2014 (R340) contained nothing more than "security" updates.
Are these cards just kind of weak, or did I get a bad one?
"Extremely" weak....
To the point where most board integrated or APUs (CPU w/ built-in GPU) are well capable of outperforming the 210...

Allow me to explain how Nvidia's model numbers work; so that you are better able to understand the differences between them, and how they are classified.

1st thing to note is that there are two differing classes of "consumer" graphics chips offered by Nvidia; "GT" and "GTX".

- "GT" class GPUs are designed for "media" applications such as HD video playback and Flash (think Facebook) games. These perform very poorly in "modern gaming" titles and/or 3D modeling/rendering.
- "GTX" class GPUs are designed for "gaming" in mind

-The 1st number of the model# refers to the "series" and has ZERO indication of performance.
-The 2nd # relates to the card's actual performance within that series.
-The end suffix "ti" refers to a mid-point card (or "half year" since these are usually released 6-8 months after the non-"ti" version). A "ti" card usually has ~20% better performance than the non-ti model and is "halfway" between the non-ti model and the next model up. (ie: GTX650->GTX650ti->GTX660)

-The "GT" line runs from x10 -> x40 (Media grade)
-The "GTX" line runs from x50 -> x80 (Gaming grade); while the x"90" is a dual GPU card which currently ended with the GTX690. (Titan excluded)

Example 1:
The model# GTX-650 tells us that it's a "600 series", "gaming grade", entry level GPU
"GTX"= gaming
"6"= 600 series
"50"= entry level "gaming" GPU (ie: 5 of 8)

Example 2:
The model# GT-610 tells us that it's a "600 series", "media grade", lowest entry level GPU availible within the 600-series.
"GT"= media
"6"= 600 series
"10"= lowest-end/entry level "media" GPU (ie: 1 of 8)


-Then there's the "M" notation... This stands for a "Mobile" (ie: Laptop) chip and in NO WAY compares to its desktop cousin in respect to performance. Typically; mobile chips offer an approx "loss" in performance of 40%-60% when compared to the desktop version.


Then there's the issue of the 210 no longer being supported w/ modern drivers/software. The 200 series (along with the 6000,7000,8000,9000,100,200,300 and some lower-end 400 series) had reached EOL (End of Life) status as of 4/2014. Thus; no further drivers/software has become available after said date. The posted "updates" listed after 4/2014 (R340) contained nothing more than "security" updates.

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#2
Posted 05/02/2017 01:45 AM   
Infinite, Thanks for the detailed reply! I will ditch the GF 210 for something better. K.
Infinite,

Thanks for the detailed reply! I will ditch the GF 210 for something better.

K.

#3
Posted 05/03/2017 06:57 PM   
Rite on! Feel free to pm me if you have anymore questions
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CPU- i7-4790k @ 4.8Ghz 1.289v (Turbo OFF) Liquid Cooled
RAM-16GB TEAM Xtreme DDR3 @ 2400Mhz (9-12-11-30)1.625v
Motherboard- Gigabyte Z97X Gamer GT
Main Graphics- 2-way SLI EVGA GTX1070
Power Supply- Corsair RM-1000i
3X Surround Samsung 27" (7680 x 1440p)

Radio Server/ Scientific Simulator
CPU1- Xeon X5650 @ 3.2Ghz (locked)
CPU2- Xeon X5650 @ 3.2Ghz (locked)
Motherboard- Asus Z8PE-D12X
RAM- G-Skill RipJaws 24Gb (6x4Gb) DDR3 @ 1600Mhz Cas8
Graphics- GTX780 + GTX560
HDDs- WD RED 3TB (3x3TB) Raid 0= 9TB +1 3Tb back up
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Monitor- 768p Dell P.O.S

STILL working Nvidia GPUs-FX5200,FX5700,6800GT,7900GT(x2),8800GTS(x2),9800GTX,GTX275(x2),GTX285(x2),GTX295(x2),GTX470(x3),GTX480,GTX660ti(x3)GTX770(x3)HWbot Overclocking results

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